18:27: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok lets get started 18:27: [The Dojo] Nikh: just a reminder first 18:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: please do not post anything out of topic 18:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: do not speak all at once 18:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: raise before you speak 18:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: etc. 18:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: it worked well last time 18:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: lets try to do too today 18:28: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: and you say if they can speak or not yer? 18:28: [The Dojo] Bisan: As long as donīt crash during the meet. :p 18:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: lol 18:29: [The Dojo] Nikh: sand yes i can say if too many ppl at once 18:29: [The Dojo] Nikh: first a *pray* 18:29: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok first topic: dress doce 18:29: [The Dojo] Nikh: what do you think about it? personnaly i like it 18:29: [The Dojo] Nikh: gladiel? 18:30: [The Dojo] Gladiel: annoying for overequipers like myself =P 18:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: san? 18:30: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: love it. looks great. i pormise to waer my red one next week :) 18:30: [The Dojo] Whootish: Does anyone have a blue suit? I think this is the wrong one for my title. :) 18:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: bisan? 18:30: [The Dojo] Bisan: It gives a better feeling that we have a proper meeting, instead of a gathering for a assault 18:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: flupper? 18:30: [The Dojo] Flupper: I like it too. It gives ppl incentive to get above level 15 :) 18:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: hehe 18:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: lisala? 18:31: [The Dojo] Lisala: Im with Glad on this... I gotta reimplant to get some armor pieces back on 18:31: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes we know its a pb with overequippers 18:31: [The Dojo] Nikh: kash? 18:31: [The Dojo] Kashuya: Exactly what Flupper said. Gave me an incentive to level quickly and get the Blue one on. 18:31: [The Dojo] Nikh: sand? 18:32: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: maybe we need to get some docs and enfs known. to help with buffs after meetings 18:32: [The Dojo] Nikh: agree. actually we can discuss that later, but we might want to add a couple of non-ma ppl in the org 18:32: [The Dojo] Nikh: but well discuss it later :) 18:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: shro? 18:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: *chro? 18:33: [The Dojo] Chronita: i personally feel the purple suits (act. called blue) look better than the blue (esp. on me :)) and should be the apprentice color instead of the reg oriental. 18:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia? 18:33: [The Dojo] Timia: I second that opinion. =) 18:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: shuya? 18:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: no? 18:33: [The Dojo] Shuya: no err 18:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok any other comment before we vote on system etc? 18:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: then: 18:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: first vote on the principle of oriantal suit and color code (whatever they are, to be voted after). 18:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: those agreeing raise 18:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: good 18:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: now on the colors 18:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: btw: names are misleading 18:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: so when i say blue i mean the actual color 18:36: [The Dojo] Nikh: not the FC name 18:36: [The Dojo] Nikh: ivul join us? 18:36: [The Dojo] Ivul: ill just sit by my man =P 18:36: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: Hey every body! 18:36: [The Dojo] Nikh: +5mill ofr not wearing his suit :) 18:36: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: lol 18:36: [The Dojo] Nikh: darrio we are in rome red for meeting join us :) 18:36: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: so what time is the meeting, and where? 18:36: [The Dojo] Lisala: late fee should be that you have to buy everyone a yalmaha :) 18:37: [The Dojo] Ivul: heal me comrades =P 18:37: [The Dojo] Nikh: meeting has started. we are in rome red 18:37: [The Dojo] Gladiel: no i wont! =P 18:37: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: we have a russian in the guild!? 18:37: [The Dojo] Ivul: sorry for being late...i overslept 18:37: [The Dojo] Tenchin: HAHAHA cchupa 18:37: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: roger...will try and find my way out of this area.. 18:37: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok. lets focus again plz 18:37: [The Dojo] Nikh: lets continue with vote 18:38: [The Dojo] Nikh: vurrent color is purple-blue-red-black 18:38: [The Dojo] Nikh: some would like blue-purple-red-black 18:38: [The Dojo] Nikh: in favor of current (ie purple-blue...) raise 18:38: [The Dojo] Whootish: Damn. :D 18:38: [The Dojo] Chupachup: Oh well 18:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok sorry chro and others. 18:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: it seems we keep it as currently is 18:39: [The Dojo] Chronita: sok, i'll be red soon anyway :) 18:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: lol 18:39: [The Dojo] Whootish: Me too. :D 18:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: now for overequippers: 18:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: we have to be practical 18:40: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: should I give my comments despite me not being there? 18:40: [The Dojo] Nikh: i suggest we allow for exceptions, asking everybody to make best effort. and then to wear a coat of the color that matches suit color 18:40: [The Dojo] Nikh: darrio better if you come :) 18:40: [The Dojo] Nikh: what do you think about my proposal? 18:40: [The Dojo] Shuya: good compromise 18:40: [The Dojo] Nikh: mara? 18:41: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: I am hauling! I was on the far side of Omni forest! 18:41: [The Dojo] Maraskye: Chron was before me 18:41: [The Dojo] Nikh: chro hten sorry 18:41: [The Dojo] Chronita: i say wear a robe of appropriate color, exactly nikh :) 18:41: [The Dojo] Nikh: mara? 18:41: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: Ahem people, some of us do have a RP style for our chars 18:41: [The Dojo] Maraskye: Personally I don't mind, I have enough friends to buff me up (unntil I'm able to myself) 18:42: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia (sorry i dont recall eact order) 18:42: [The Dojo] Timia: Most will somehow try to get a good senpai suit and overequip that also. But as a general rule I agree. 18:42: [The Dojo] Nikh: diav? 18:42: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: diav?? 18:42: [The Dojo] Diavilo: Aye i agree, for some it is not so easy to remove their combat armor 18:43: [The Dojo] Nikh: sand? a good example of exception :) 18:43: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: yer ok nikh. ill find a red cloak till i can buff myself into my armour then. what is the standing on senpai coats? my hanshi is kinda red 18:43: [The Dojo] Nikh: suit are more red than senpai though i think 18:43: [The Dojo] Nikh: hosh? 18:43: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: FC have obviously a problem with overequipping anyway, if anyone read the news.... so maybe the problem will solve itself after the next few updates. 18:43: [The Dojo] Nikh: glad? 18:44: [The Dojo] Gladiel: yeah uh what color for when we hit 100? =P 18:44: [The Dojo] Nikh: black 18:44: [The Dojo] Nikh: lisa? 18:44: [The Dojo] Gladiel: oki 18:44: [The Dojo] Lisala: Funcom appears to be mostly concerned with weapon over equipping, which really doesnt effect us 18:44: [The Dojo] Nikh: chup? 18:45: [The Dojo] Chupachup: I have a doc, that I can level if the armor over equipping becomes a problem. He's level 36 right now. 18:45: [The Dojo] Shuya: yeah overequpped items will see their effect disminushed 18:45: [The Dojo] Nikh: about FC: 18:45: [The Dojo] Nikh: this is a proposal, far from being implemented 18:46: [The Dojo] Nikh: and wont ctop overequippment, just dimish it a bit when abused 18:46: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: may I put in a comment here? 18:46: [The Dojo] Nikh: darrio go ahead 18:47: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: what if you wear certain clothes because your char wears them for reasons they are gothic. Or they are supposed to be like mercs or hit man. Or just down right scary? 18:47: [The Dojo] Nikh: well for meetings, the prupose of dress code is that you have to wear that 18:48: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: what was with armor color then? 18:48: [The Dojo] Nikh: or for others 'formal' occasions 18:48: [The Dojo] Whootish: Surely one hour a week isn't so much trouble? 18:48: [The Dojo] Scimoon: Hehe 18:48: [The Dojo] Nikh: no dress code on armor yet 18:48: [The Dojo] Shuya: this is just role play =P 18:48: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: then I mistunderstood, sorry. 18:49: [The Dojo] Nikh: np darrio :) 18:49: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: so we are allowed to wear our trench coats etc the rest of the time except at meetings? 18:49: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok so those in favor of deing understand ing for overequippers raise 18:49: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes darrio 18:49: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: roger got it. 18:49: [The Dojo] Nikh: the others will be killed by sand and ivul 18:49: [The Dojo] Maraskye: lol 18:49: [The Dojo] Nikh: good 18:50: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: your nice -.- 18:50: [The Dojo] Timia: uh.. ;) 18:50: [The Dojo] Tenchin: lol 18:50: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: i reckon anyone in omni elite can wear armour at meetings :P 18:50: [The Dojo] Ivul: showoff 18:50: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: your the only one who can afford that probably Sand 18:50: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: pah. ivul got a whole set for free today. 18:50: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: ^&*^&*^&^&*^&* 18:50: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: and who bought him it? 18:50: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok thats good for dress code 18:50: [The Dojo] Gladiel: i wear omni pol =P 18:50: [The Dojo] Ivul: =D 18:51: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: I wear what ever the hell I want! *can't afford much else* 18:51: [The Dojo] Shuya: stay focused ppl ;) 18:51: [The Dojo] Nikh: Second topic: 18:51: [The Dojo] Diavilo: Shush darrion, now is not the time 18:51: [The Dojo] Nikh: Council 18:51: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: roger. 18:52: [The Dojo] Nikh: quick recap: 18:52: [The Dojo] Shuya: affirmative 18:52: [The Dojo] Nikh: the idea is to have a samll group of members Start logging of "The Dojo" at 12/16/01 18:55:34 18:55: [The Dojo] Tenchin: crash? 18:55: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: seems so 18:55: [The Dojo] Nikh: errr sorry 18:56: [The Dojo] Nikh: crash indeed 18:56: [The Dojo] Nikh: lol sand 18:56: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok so lets get back to council 18:56: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: still broke... 18:56: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: gotta just reboot 18:57: [The Dojo] Nikh: so the idea is to have a mall group of people that will devote more time to running the dojo, and helping others etc. 18:57: [The Dojo] Nikh: First question: 18:57: [The Dojo] Nikh: do we agree we need a council ? 18:58: [The Dojo] Nikh: comments before votes? 18:58: [The Dojo] Nikh: chup 18:58: [The Dojo] Chupachup: I say we should go with a council, and have a couple people from each rank so that we have all our bases covered. 18:58: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: semi fixed...I can move and talk now 18:59: [The Dojo] Flupper: relax darrio 18:59: [The Dojo] Nikh: shoj? 18:59: [The Dojo] Shojern: that would mean a constant change in council 18:59: [The Dojo] Nikh: hosh? 18:59: [The Dojo] Lisala: 18:59: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: i want to stress the point that membership in the council should have nothing to do with lvl, just with devootion to the job 18:59: [The Dojo] Lisala: oops 18:59: [The Dojo] Nikh: agree hosh 18:59: [The Dojo] Nikh: diav? 19:00: [The Dojo] Diavilo: I believe that a coucncil should have several sections as in perhaps a mission section, and maybe a hunt section or such 19:00: [The Dojo] Tenchin: why e take screenshot? 19:00: [The Dojo] Nikh: agre, but well discuss the deatils of coucil after. first on the principle of council? 19:01: [The Dojo] Nikh: Sand? 19:01: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: i agree it should not just be high levelers. will isolate lower levles and promote speed leveling.i think they should not be assigned specific roles. but work together to help new ppl and organise hunts events etc 19:01: [The Dojo] Nikh: bisan? 19:01: [The Dojo] Bisan: Add some who take care of alliances with other groups. 19:01: [The Dojo] Nikh: agree 19:01: [The Dojo] Nikh: other comments? 19:01: [The Dojo] Nikh: diav? 19:02: [The Dojo] Diavilo: My sister would like to speak through me, is that ok with everyone? 19:02: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: yes I have a comment actually...we should make enginer corps etc 19:02: [The Dojo] Nikh: go ahead 19:02: [The Dojo] Nikh: plz darrio first raise before comment 19:02: [The Dojo] Diavilo: Hello everyone this is Shaharr 19:02: [The Dojo] Chupachup: <waves> Hiya Shaharr! 19:02: [The Dojo] Nikh: hi shaharr 19:03: [The Dojo] Diavilo: My comment is that I agree with the council and it should be of various levels 19:03: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok. glad? 19:03: [The Dojo] Gladiel: what happened to sensees? =P 19:03: [The Dojo] Nikh: thats next point: shat name do we give to council 19:03: [The Dojo] Nikh: kash? 19:04: [The Dojo] Nikh: agree 19:04: [The Dojo] Nikh: mara? 19:04: [The Dojo] Maraskye: The name.. I've heard a few oriental groups (RL and otherwise) use "Cirlce of Elders" 19:05: [The Dojo] Nikh: diav? 19:05: [The Dojo] Maraskye: Circle, rather 19:05: [The Dojo] Diavilo: I have a coment as to the name, this was entered by my sister, as the Council of One 19:05: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok 19:05: [The Dojo] Nikh: lisa? 19:05: [The Dojo] Lisala: is the council the ultimate authority or do they present ideas to be voted on by the whole guild... meaning do we be democratic or oligarchic? 19:06: [The Dojo] Nikh: council would not have ultimate authority 19:06: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: ...nikh would :-) 19:06: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia? 19:07: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok long comment from timia :) 19:07: [The Dojo] Nikh: hold it for discussion on name 19:07: [The Dojo] Nikh: well have a brainstorming cession :) 19:07: [The Dojo] Timia: I agree the Circle of Elders or something would fit nicely. Also it should not have any full power, as all decisions should be voted by those at the assembly. Also since sensei is directly linked to a teacher role I find it ill fitted that the council should consist of senseis. *pants* 19:07: [The Dojo] Nikh: shoj? 19:07: [The Dojo] Shojern: would the council be made up of volenteers or apointments? 19:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: definitely volunteers chosen by everyone 19:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok lets move on to votes (name after that) 19:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: first cote: 19:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: agree we should have a council 19:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: raise if approve 19:09: [The Dojo] Nikh: good. i like 100% approval ;) 19:09: [The Dojo] Nikh: second question: 19:09: [The Dojo] Ivul: thats because ur a tyrant nikh =P 19:09: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: i wasnt voting. something bit my arse. 19:09: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: lol 19:09: [The Dojo] Lisala: lol 19:09: [The Dojo] Chupachup: Sorry, I won't bite anymore... 19:09: [The Dojo] Nikh: the council shoul be of any lvl, no specific role, rather a small group of volunteers elected by the dojo 19:09: [The Dojo] Nikh: rais if agree 19:10: [The Dojo] Nikh: lisa? 19:10: [The Dojo] Lisala: I move that we wait on the naming until next week and debate it on the forums this week 19:10: [The Dojo] Leviathana: Hiya ;) 19:10: [The Dojo] Nikh: hi leviathan. we are in meeting right now 19:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: join us if you can, but avoifd posts on guild chat :) 19:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: shoj? 19:11: [The Dojo] Shojern: if the council has no specifc role what is it for? 19:11: [The Dojo] Leviathana: doh, dunno how to get there ;( 19:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: i was refering to roles specific for individuals 19:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: like ministers 19:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: etc. 19:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: hosh? 19:12: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: what size sould the council have? will it be the highest "court" in questions of discipline? 19:12: [The Dojo] Leviathana: I am at the camp where sho, darri and me was hunting yesterday 19:12: [The Dojo] Nikh: good questions. l 19:12: [The Dojo] Nikh: lets discuss some in a moment 19:12: [The Dojo] Flupper: whoops :) sorry 19:13: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: suelry the size is decided by the diff roles required. 19:13: [The Dojo] Nikh: so we agree on the council being etc. (i wont retype everything) 19:13: [The Dojo] Nikh: hum sand, we voted that we wouldnt have specific roles per individuals 19:13: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: shall I fill Lev in quick? 19:13: [The Dojo] Nikh: unless there was a misunderstanding? 19:13: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: soz was afk 19:13: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: thats fine then 19:14: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok lets do quickly size. name i agree well debat on forum 19:14: [The Dojo] Nikh: i think 6 is good. comments? 19:14: [The Dojo] Nikh: hosh? 19:14: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: take an odd number, in case of disagreements 19:14: [The Dojo] Nikh: chro? 19:14: [The Dojo] Chronita: did i put on the invisible suit by mistake :) 19:14: [The Dojo] Nikh: sorry chro didnt see you :( 19:15: [The Dojo] Chronita: i was going to say that council can have certain duties but also will all help with advice etc. 19:15: [The Dojo] Nikh: agree chro 19:15: [The Dojo] Nikh: diav? 19:16: [The Dojo] Diavilo: I agree and disagree with the number 6, agree because i believe that we need about 1 council member per 10 people and disagree because we may need more council due to the amount of positions or duties needing filling 19:16: [The Dojo] Nikh: kash? 19:16: [The Dojo] Kashuya: I'd say 5, to make for an uneven number, and as there are 5 elements in Oriental societies...... Fire,Water,Wind,Earth,Void. Would also be good to name the members of the council appropriatly, one of each element. For RP purposes. 19:16: [The Dojo] Nikh: interesting 19:16: [The Dojo] Nikh: kash? 19:17: [The Dojo] Leviathana: *winded* 19:17: [The Dojo] Nikh: err glad? 19:17: [The Dojo] Gladiel: ohm.... is it just me or am i the only one who things council should have at least somewhat specific roles 19:17: [The Dojo] Nikh: (sorry snd i pased you i know - appologies) 19:17: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: how about council of 4 ppl plus nikh? thats 5. or do we need more? 19:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: agree council should have specific roles. i just wont be 1 role for 1 person 19:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: bisan? 19:18: [The Dojo] Bisan: Fire,water, wind, earh and wood is also classical. You can add void if we need 6 members. 19:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: shoj? 19:18: [The Dojo] Shojern: so i can understand, the council will be deciding on things for the guild? or just setting events up and such? 19:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: no decisions will still be voted 19:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: darrio? 19:19: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: Yes but there is life and death, ying and yang. We need more room to grow as will have more members, being a Dojo, and omni tek at there 19:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia? 19:19: [The Dojo] Timia: I agree with Gladiel. The members should have specific roles. Much easier to manage who does what. 19:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: shuya? 19:19: [The Dojo] Shuya: i wonder if the coucil will have any fonction, so we should focus like kashuya said on roleplay and folklore 19:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: shoj? 19:19: [The Dojo] Shojern: then if no decisions why does it have to be odd or even numbers 19:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok about number of ppl in council: 19:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: mara? 19:20: [The Dojo] Maraskye: was just going to reply to Shoj, incase a decision is called for 19:20: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes 19:20: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok so lets vote in following way: 19:20: [The Dojo] Nikh: each type the number you like, we chose the one mentionned most often. stay in 4-10 range 19:21: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: 9 19:21: [The Dojo] Kashuya: 5 19:21: [The Dojo] Shuya: 7 19:21: [The Dojo] Maraskye: 5 19:21: [The Dojo] Diavilo: 6 19:21: [The Dojo] Chronita: 5 19:21: [The Dojo] Whootish: 9 19:21: [The Dojo] Bisan: 7 19:21: [The Dojo] Scimoon: 5 19:21: [The Dojo] Timia: 5 19:21: [The Dojo] Nikh: 7 19:21: [The Dojo] Flupper: 5 19:21: [The Dojo] Lisala: 7 19:21: [The Dojo] Shojern: 10 19:21: [The Dojo] Tenchin: 7 19:21: [The Dojo] Diavilo: shaharr here ... 6 19:22: [The Dojo] Nikh: hold on darrio 19:22: [The Dojo] Leviathana: Hiya ;) 19:22: [The Dojo] Nikh: we have a draw: 5 and 7 are equal 19:22: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok sandz so its 5 :) 19:22: [The Dojo] Shuya: 5 & 7 are tied 19:22: [The Dojo] Nikh: lets make room for leviath 19:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: darrio? 19:23: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: better suggestion Why not add a new council member for every 10 members? its logical no? 19:23: [The Dojo] Leviathana: Ty ;) 19:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: could be envisonned yes. but we must start somewhere :) 19:23: [The Dojo] Leviathana: Whats that sand ? 19:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok so 5 and 7 are tied. let smake another vote 19:24: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: 7 19:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: just one comment from me: 19:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: hold on 19:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: i think ppl are not always online or available, and 7 might be better to have sufficient memebers active at any given moment 19:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: bisan? 19:24: [The Dojo] Bisan: How many members do we have right now? 19:25: [The Dojo] Nikh: 65 19:25: [The Dojo] Nikh: diav? 19:25: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: ok i change my vote to 7 too.. didnt think of that point Nikh 19:25: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: nice one 19:25: [The Dojo] Diavilo: I agree with you Nikh and i agree with Darrion, as the guild grows, we should be ready to expand the council as fit 19:25: [The Dojo] Nikh: chro? 19:25: [The Dojo] Chronita: i'd like tto restate the fact we feel each council member should have some job, at least at first. 19:26: [The Dojo] Nikh: well come back to that in a sec 19:26: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia? 19:26: [The Dojo] Nikh: no 19:26: [The Dojo] Timia: =) 19:26: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok so lets vote for 5 vs 7 19:26: [The Dojo] Nikh: 7 raise 19:26: [The Dojo] Coldnight: 7 19:26: [The Dojo] Tenchin: 7 19:27: [The Dojo] Nikh: 7 ok 19:27: [The Dojo] Shuya: it seem unambiguous 19:27: [The Dojo] Diavilo: shahar votes 7 as well 19:27: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok lets try to wrap the meeting soon 19:27: [The Dojo] Nikh: 2 last points on council 19:27: [The Dojo] Shuya: topic 3!!! 19:27: [The Dojo] Nikh: first: 19:28: [The Dojo] Diavilo: Darrion be quiet! 19:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: should memebr hav specific role like ministers? or no member-specific role? 19:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: no comments, just vote 19:29: [The Dojo] Nikh: in favor of member-specific role, raise 19:29: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: um question first 19:29: [The Dojo] Diavilo: shaharr votes yes as well 19:29: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok then we will decide on role on forums 19:29: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: by no specific roles, would they just be there as a helper for every one? 19:29: [The Dojo] Flupper: forum discussion ? 19:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes forum discussion 19:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: too long here 19:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: which means we wont be electing memebrs until next time 19:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: name will also be debated on forums 19:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: lets quickly move to topic 3 19:31: [The Dojo] Nikh: MA tournament 19:31: [The Dojo] Nikh: who did some test this week? 19:31: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok :) 19:31: [The Dojo] Nikh: well we need to test MA PvP rules. 19:31: [The Dojo] Coldnight: I wanna try Pvp, reason 19:31: [The Dojo] Nikh: Who would volunteer to test some rules by next week? 19:32: [The Dojo] Nikh: cold? 19:32: [The Dojo] Coldnight: I wanna try Pvp, reason for me to MA... 19:32: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: ill fight flupper if you want 19:32: [The Dojo] Nikh: err r u raising to voluinteer? 19:32: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: aye 19:32: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: guess so 19:32: [The Dojo] Nikh: k 19:32: [The Dojo] Flupper: ill show you some moves sand :) 19:32: [The Dojo] Chronita: i will volunteer :) 19:32: [The Dojo] Diavilo: Aye, i am raising to volunteer 19:32: [The Dojo] Nikh: so all volunteers raise 19:32: [The Dojo] Coldnight: also vol 19:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: flup and sand make up your mind :) 19:33: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: im sure ivul will help too 19:33: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: me flup hoshi and ivul will try i reckon. 19:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: good 19:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: cold? 19:33: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: but thats monk level 19:33: [The Dojo] Coldnight: sorry was afk 19:33: [The Dojo] Diavilo: I will try for monk level as well 19:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: bisan? 19:34: [The Dojo] Bisan: What rules are we going to have concerned what is allowed to be used in turnament 19:34: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: we need ppl at apprentice level too 19:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: thats the prupose of those tests 19:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: see what is practical and fun 19:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: leth? 19:34: [The Dojo] Lethalfire: if you have any question about pvp ask me, i made more than a 100 arena fights with my previous characters 19:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: nice :) 19:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia? 19:34: [The Dojo] Timia: Then I also volunteer. 19:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: k 19:34: [The Dojo] Diavilo: shaharr says she will volunteer for apprentice lvl testing 19:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: chup? 19:35: [The Dojo] Chupachup: I volounteer as well. 19:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: k 19:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: cold? 19:35: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: I volunteer, any thing to repay the clanners for what they did to Lebedev 19:35: [The Dojo] Coldnight: vol for apprentice test 19:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: k 19:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: good. so go to foums for feedback Start logging of "The Dojo" at 12/16/01 19:38:26 19:38: [The Dojo] Diavilo: only when attacked should we attack back 19:38: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: Hey, you want to see Clanners over run Omni1? 19:38: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: or do you want us to own Omni1? 19:38: [The Dojo] Flupper: that would be an attak... 19:38: [The Dojo] Scimoon: Would you please stick to the subject? 19:39: [The Dojo] Diavilo: shaharr no but we should not lok for a fight 19:39: [The Dojo] Bisan: Hrrrm, Control please. 19:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok 19:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: we are about done 19:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: we'll debreid PvP next week 19:40: [The Dojo] Nikh: as you know, praetorian is also lokking into organizing such a trounament 19:40: [The Dojo] Nikh: any final comments before we finish? 19:40: [The Dojo] Nikh: leth? 19:40: [The Dojo] Lethalfire: tournaments should be team fights not only 1vs1 19:40: [The Dojo] Diavilo: shaharr: yes I would like to bring up; a subject pls 19:41: [The Dojo] Nikh: chup? 19:41: [The Dojo] Chupachup: I would just like to say that a guild is only as good as it's members. If anyone needs help, I will try my best to help them =) 19:41: [The Dojo] Nikh: thx chup 19:41: [The Dojo] Nikh: hosh? 19:41: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: maybe its a bit early, since the org is not that old yet, but has anyone ever thought of a real life meeting? 19:41: [The Dojo] Nikh: err. gonna be tough :) 19:41: [The Dojo] Nikh: diav? 19:42: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: bit tricky that. we are truely a multi-national guild 19:42: [The Dojo] Lisala: arent we from all over the world and stuff? ) 19:42: [The Dojo] Diavilo: shaharr: yes manners and how we treat each other 19:42: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia? 19:42: [The Dojo] Timia: Also, more people needs to use the forums. It seems that few are. 19:42: [The Dojo] Nikh: agree timia Start logging of "The Dojo" at 12/16/01 19:45:22 19:45: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: it is fairly easy to organize, but probably quite expensive to get there 19:45: [The Dojo] Shuya: maybe in 4 years whean ao plot terminates 19:45: [The Dojo] Maraskye: We could try to organize country-specific meets first (UK, US, etc) and go for an international later perhaps... 19:45: [The Dojo] Darrionadoni: ahhh Shuya....you do know its still hasn't started in RU2 19:46: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok. lets call off the meeting