14:16: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, let's go ahead and begin the assembly now, as always, with a /pray :) 14:16: [The Dojo] Chronita: Now for the mandatory “Rules of the Assembly” speech. . . ;) 14:17: [The Dojo] Chronita: I will be moderating this Assembly. This is not to prevent you from expressing yourself, on the contrary, but rather to try to keep it organized. Until I open a topic for discussion, comments in the org channel should be kept at a minimal. 14:17: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Lovegod ( level 200 Martial Artist ) logged on - He is back - the man behind the mask :: Click for alternative character info. 14:17: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Felidae logged off 14:17: [The Dojo] Chronita: If I open a discussion, you may freely contribute to the discussion (without standing up), until the discussion is closed. If I ask for any new topics and you have one you would like to raise, please stand and I will recognize you so you can state your topic, then we will have a discussion. 14:17: [The Dojo] Chronita: When discussing, pls respect the others, and stick to the topic currently being discussed. Applicants are requested to limit their posts, and cannot take part in votes. 14:17: [The Dojo] Chronita: If someone from outside the org disturbs our meeting here, the best policy is to just ignore him/her. A council member or myself can tell them the meeting is in progress and ask them to leave, otherwise we should limit our contact with them. In the past it has been proven time and time again that the “zen” approach is best :) 14:17: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Thaylia ( level 164 Martial Artist ) logged on - Hello everyone, there´s no escape: I´m back :-) :: Click for alternative character info. 14:17: [The Dojo] Chronita: End of Speech :) 14:18: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, I have several important topics we all need to discuss, so we will limit the assembly today to just those. 14:19: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Xiahang logged off 14:19: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Xiahang ( level 200 Martial Artist ) logged on - :: Click for alternative character info. 14:20: [The Dojo] Chronita: Before I begin, I would like to emphasize that all of these topics have dealt or will deal with using our org forums in one way or another, so please remember to take advantage of what we have and visit the forums on a regular basis to keep up with org happenings. 14:20: [The Dojo] Chronita: The first topic today deals with Council Seats 14:21: [The Dojo] Chronita: As some of you might know, earlier this week Xiahang left the org (eventhough she still registers on Dojonet ;)), and by so doing vacated a council seat. 14:22: [The Dojo] Chronita: These days we do not have a static number of seats we fill every month, but simply add new members as they express interest and are approved by the existing council. 14:23: [The Dojo] Chronita: At this time however, we have only 4 total council members - Neuro, Cute, Mal and myself. 14:23: [The Dojo] Chronita: This total is a little low for my tastes, so I would like to encourage anyone who has a passing interest to read up on Council and apply if interested. 14:24: [The Dojo] Chronita: I will begin a new thread later today in our "Offline Assembly" forum for applications, and you can find a handy guide all about what Council members do in that forum as well. 14:25: [The Dojo] Chronita: Second topic for today deals with our participation in Tower battles and our wants concering tower land in general. 14:26: [The Dojo] Chronita: Again, earlier this week our small FotD field was taken, leaving FotD towerless atm, and of course Dojo with the 1 remaining field, filled to capacity. 14:26: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Zyphrix ( level 126 Martial Artist ) logged on 14:27: [The Dojo] Zyphrix: Hi dojo 14:27: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: Heya Zyph 14:27: [The Dojo] Thaylia: Hi, hurry up for assembly :) 14:28: [The Dojo] Zyphrix: dang 14:28: [The Dojo] Chronita: For the past 2 weeks or so I have asked for anyone with interest to scout possible areas or offer organizational services regarding new additions to our tower field count. 14:28: [The Dojo] Zyphrix: im in sl 14:28: [The Dojo] Lovegod: just jump Zyph, we will catch you 14:28: [The Dojo] Chronita: Basically I have heard little, and no sign of activity at all has been seen besides the general sign-up list posted on the forums for future consideration. 14:30: [The Dojo] Chronita: As I posted on the forums a couple days ago, I just cant organize everything concerning a tower raid, so I am not going to attempt such a feat alone. 14:31: [The Dojo] Chronita: Basically we either need ppl dedicated to this matter to help with planning, etc., or possibly come to the decisions that we are not going to take part in land conquests. 14:32: [The Dojo] Chronita: The latter means FotD will remain tower-less, and unless you do not already have personal towers planted in our SFH field, you do not have a chance of placing one in the future. 14:33: [The Dojo] Chronita: So, given these options, I'd just like to open the floor and see what your feelings are. 14:33: [The Dojo] Thaylia: I don´t like the current situation 14:34: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Meethra ( level 81 Martial Artist ) logged on 14:34: [The Dojo] Ewall: what areas have our towers recently fallen? 14:34: [The Dojo] Thaylia: but I don´t know enough about land control and how to check out a possible field 14:34: [The Dojo] Lovegod: Not that many ppl signed up in the tower thread 14:34: [The Dojo] Refflection: Perhaps we should wait until land in SL is opened up 14:35: [The Dojo] Ewall: What zones held our recently fallen towers? 14:35: [The Dojo] Thaylia: whenever I am on with Thay or an alt, I´m ready to run and help 14:35: [The Dojo] Maleene: hehe.. those lands are smal 14:35: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: That might take a bit.. 14:35: [The Dojo] Chronita: Dojo field was in PM, FotD in GOmni Forest 14:35: [The Dojo] Thakilla5: what are the point of SL tower fields? they are sooo small? 14:35: [The Dojo] Ewall: Those are both Omni territory 14:35: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: That and RK towers won't work in SL, so we will have to find out how that works when it comes out *Cough* 14:35: [The Dojo] Ewall: the clans are treating it as their own 14:36: [The Dojo] Ewall: this may be rash, but I think all clan towers in those 2 zones should go down 14:36: [The Dojo] Raialibe: Considering how things went on FotD field in Holes In the Wall some time ago...We lack active players to defend such fields 14:36: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: I agree, we dont have enough people online at any one time in the right level range to defend tower sites 14:36: [The Dojo] Thaylia: ... or chars in the right lvl range 14:36: [The Dojo] Thakilla5: I agree with cute 14:37: [The Dojo] Chronita: It seems to me atm that we have a good group of people willing to help, but just no one around that wants to plan/lead attacks 14:37: [The Dojo] Thakilla5: hardly ever more than 15 people on at a time 14:37: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: and other omni mainly only want to help out on tower sites that are for lvls 150+ 14:37: [The Dojo] Lovegod: Are we still only considering max 140 tower? 14:37: [The Dojo] Ewall: in that case, relying on defence is not a good plan 14:37: [The Dojo] Chronita: Yes love, basically anything 1-140ish atm for either org really 14:38: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: I would help plan and lead the attack but I just started college this last week, so I've been busy with that =( 14:38: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: =) 14:38: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Kayti1 ( level 101 Martial Artist ) logged on 14:38: [The Dojo] Najla: I don't have understanding of towers at all .... is there a bsic guide anywhere ? 14:38: [The Dojo] Ewall: i think i will use my yalm and find all of the clan towers in those regions 14:39: [The Dojo] Raialibe: Najla, Anarchyarcanum has 14:39: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: Speaking of yalm, I should go pick a small one up 14:39: [The Dojo] Chronita: There is a Notum War section of the FC main site as well 14:39: [The Dojo] Kayti1: Hello 14:39: [The Dojo] Najla: Thanks ... I'll taje a look. 14:40: [The Dojo] Ewall: So it seems that an attack has been agreed on? 14:40: [The Dojo] Thaylia: I´m up for it whenever I am on 14:40: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: need to find a spot and for someone to plan it 14:40: [The Dojo] Chronita: Exactly 14:40: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: no planner to set the attack time and site = no attack 14:40: [The Dojo] Ewall: i dont have too much time for AO but ill see what i can do 14:40: [The Dojo] Dalsa: i am keen to help. not plan 14:41: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: I'll try to find a mid level tower area when I do in fact, have a mode of transport. 14:41: [The Dojo] Chronita: and that is what we are lacking, so until we have ppl motivated to do these things, I just can not see us launching an attack worthy of the time 14:42: [The Dojo] Ewall: if we did post an attack on the website, there is a small chance a clanner could find it and warn the others 14:43: [The Dojo] Chronita: Well, when we plan the attack we can use more secretive ways, thats not an issue. 14:43: [The Dojo] Ewall: i know but it just came to me so i thought id say it 14:44: [The Dojo] Chronita: I think for now we will just sit back and stay out of the planning business until we find a couple members willing to dedicate time to such and endeavor. 14:44: [The Dojo] Lovegod: Its not just about get ppl for launching the attack. We still need ppl to defend it. Planing is not just about finding a piece of land, its also about getting the ppl to show up @ the right time and place. 14:45: [The Dojo] Ewall: true 14:45: [The Dojo] Chronita: If you have not already and would like to, post your possible war-time character list on the thread in the general forum so we can have that if needed in the future. 14:45: [The Dojo] Raialibe: The later part is called Dedication btw 14:45: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Kayti1 logged off 14:45: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: yes 14:46: [The Dojo] Chronita: Fal you want to say something? 14:46: [The Dojo] Ewall: i think the dojo has many members, few that play often 14:46: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: Hmm..until we get more 50-60ish people, my level range is out 14:46: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: And I can't scout reasonable locations 14:46: [The Dojo] Chronita: ok, well this leads me to my last topic for the day 14:46: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: If we go for a ql 100-150 site my agent would be happy to help, she's good with pvp, this MA isnt =) 14:46: [The Dojo] Ewall: i hate the level range thing 14:47: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: Yes, it's a burden like thing. 14:47: [The Dojo] Lovegod: Yes, whats the count on currently active memebers? 14:47: [The Dojo] Ewall: !online 14:47: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Users online :: click to view. 14:47: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: That many 14:47: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: weird, i'm on my alt right now? lol 14:47: [The Dojo] Ewall: 22 it looks like 14:47: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: it says my agent is logged in 14:47: [The Dojo] Ewall: on assembly hour 14:47: [The Dojo] Ewall: ouch 14:48: [The Dojo] Chronita: I have seen discussion of it lately, and have considered it myself in the last month or so too, so I'd like to bring this idea to the public and see how you feel about it. . . 14:48: [The Dojo] Ewall: that makes it even lower 14:49: [The Dojo] Chronita: Basically our official org roster that states total org population and our actual number of active members are extremely off 14:49: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: Oh yes. 14:49: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Kayti1 ( level 101 Martial Artist ) logged on 14:49: [The Dojo] Thaylia: indeed 14:49: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Kayti1 logged off 14:49: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: Indubidably 14:50: [The Dojo] Chronita: While it is nice to boast the size of our org and such, it is a large misrepresentation these days IMO. 14:51: [The Dojo] Chronita: So, i have considered running a roster check-in, where I take a span of 2 weeks or so and let everyone who is still around and active these days sign a thread on the forums 14:51: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: Sounds reasonable 14:51: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: I'm in favor 14:51: [The Dojo] Equipped: sounds good 14:51: [The Dojo] Najla: me too 14:51: [The Dojo] Ewall: me too 14:51: [The Dojo] Thaylia: agreed 14:51: [The Dojo] Refflection: me 14 14:51: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: That's like...#15 but one less 14:52: [The Dojo] Chronita: After this, I would kick everyone who does not respond, except for maybe some past members who were important to the org or that I may think will return in the near future 14:52: [The Dojo] Thakilla5: sounds fair enough to me 14:52: [The Dojo] Neurobatica: I still think that our membership past and present is something to be proud of and something we are one of only a very few orgs can claim to as a legacy. There isn't a downside to maintaining our roster. And the active org members all know who the active ones are. 14:52: [The Dojo] Lovegod: Should be the same head count as in tower sign up thread 14:52: [The Dojo] Chronita: I can make a copy of the roster beforehand, and allow easy re-admittance to anyone that comes back later to learn they were disbanded from the org. 14:53: [The Dojo] Neurobatica: So my vote is strongly in favor of leaving our roster alone. 14:53: [The Dojo] Neurobatica: Once purged, our history is gone. 14:53: [The Dojo] Lovegod: Another way to go is to reform the org 14:53: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Xiahang logged off 14:53: [The Dojo] Refflection: I have to disagree neura, our history will never fade from peoples' memories. 14:54: [The Dojo] Chronita: Reforming would kill our towers - dont want to risk messing with that 14:54: [The Dojo] Refflection: There are much too many people in our org who haven't logged on in months and even years 14:54: [The Dojo] Neurobatica: There is no memory for new members of just how vast this org is over time 14:54: [The Dojo] Refflection: We can keep a copy of a current roster on the site 14:54: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: our org doesnt seem big though, only in stats, not actual attendance 14:54: [The Dojo] Neurobatica: Something unique about Dojo is we've been around for so long and have had so many people in the org over that time. I think it's a legacy not to be thrown away. 14:55: [The Dojo] Chronita: Our website has a long history as well, every assembly log for example ;) 14:55: [The Dojo] Lovegod: Do you really think someone from the Dojo would show up to defend the tower if "new Dojo" attacked it? ;) 14:55: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: That would be amusing and depressing at the same time 14:55: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: Like that show, "Family Matters" 14:55: [The Dojo] Najla: One other possibility is to just prune out inactive applicants for now. 14:56: [The Dojo] Refflection: That's sort of the plan i thought 14:56: [The Dojo] Thakilla5: yea like level 10 and lower app's :P that havent signed on in months O.o 14:56: [The Dojo] Chronita: Well, mainly I just wanted to gague opinions on the matter for now - I think we will hold an official vote next assembly 14:56: [The Dojo] Maleene: dont kick ferco though =) hes active but avent posted on forum.. hehe 14:56: [The Dojo] Neurobatica: So that's my vote. Having a very long roster doesn't affect us all practically but to me its a legacy of our history (one that I was around for most of) 14:56: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: I see what you are saying Neuro.... 14:57: [The Dojo] Chronita: I'll post this section of the assembly log on the forums and we can continue to discuss during the week. 14:57: [The Dojo] Thaylia: well, I´ve met ppl who are making jokes about the great no. of names on our list and who ask me where all those ppl are in difficult times... 14:57: [The Dojo] Lovegod: One the other hand, we are not getting anywhere by looking back... 14:57: [The Dojo] Chronita: So, like I said up top - use the forums! ;) 14:57: [The Dojo] Refflection: I agree love 14:58: [The Dojo] Equipped: I guess towers belonging to kicked mebers would go away, that would be nice =) 14:58: [The Dojo] Neurobatica: Tell them it's part of our history. They are part of an org that doesn't have any. :) 14:58: [The Dojo] Refflection: hehe equipped :p 14:58: [The Dojo] Chronita: yes equipped, that is one plus 14:58: [The Dojo] Thaylia: I defended them anyway, but it made me think about it 14:59: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, we'll end the discussion here for now. 14:59: [The Dojo] Falbrucher: Indeed. 15:00: [The Dojo] Ewall: any other topics? 15:00: [The Dojo] Chronita: Before we go, I want to remind everyone that we will have an informal assembly next week at the Wedding of Torris and Jeathean in Greater Omni Forest - Mystic Swamp Circle, same time as the assembly today. 15:00: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Xiahang ( level 200 Martial Artist ) logged on - :: Click for alternative character info. 15:01: [The Dojo] Chronita: So, with that, we will end today's assembly here with a /pray :) 15:01: [The Dojo] Equipped: I would like the org to be more active in getting new members, maybe post on the offical forums and such. 15:01: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Thakilla5 logged off