13:02: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, let's begin the assembly now, as always, with a /pray :) 13:03: [The Dojo] Chronita: Now for the mandatory “Rules of the Assembly” speech. . . ;) 13:03: [The Dojo] Chronita: I will be moderating this Assembly. This is not to prevent you from expressing yourself, on the contrary, but rather to try to keep it organized. Until I open a topic for discussion, comments in the org channel should be kept at a minimal. 13:03: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged off 13:03: [The Dojo] Chronita: If I open a discussion, you may freely contribute to the discussion (without standing up), until the discussion is closed. If I ask for any new topics and you have one you would like to raise, please stand and I will recognize you so you can state your topic, then we will have a discussion 13:04: [The Dojo] Chronita: When discussing, pls respect the others, and stick to the topic currently being discussed. Applicants are requested to limit their posts, and cannot take part in votes. 13:04: [The Dojo] Chronita: If someone from outside the org disturbs our meeting here, the best policy is to just ignore him/her. A council member or myself can tell them the meeting is in progress and ask them to leave, otherwise we should limit our contact with them. In the past it has been proven time and time again that the “zen” approach is best :) 13:04: [The Dojo] Chronita: End of speech :) 13:05: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, we have 2 main topics for today that will include quite a bit of detail, so we should have a decent-sized assembly time today :) 13:05: [The Dojo] Chronita: First topic is to introduce our new org bot Dojonet :) 13:06: [The Dojo] Chronita: Dojonet is provided by one of our newer members Saathi, and is quite the little marvel :) 13:06: [The Dojo] Dojonet: ok, I'm listening 13:07: [The Dojo] Chronita: To begin, I'd like to state that if you want to know more about what Dojonet does, simply type /tell dojonet help 13:07: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged on - I am the lost soul that brings the light to new eyes ... May we all Walk in the Light :: Click for alternative character info. 13:08: [The Dojo] Chronita: It will list all the functions you can utilize in the help file. 13:08: [The Dojo] Chronita: All functions can either be carried out by typing in the org chat line or by /telling the bot directly 13:09: [The Dojo] Lovegod: online 13:09: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Users online :: click to view. 13:09: [The Dojo] Chronita: We ask at this time that your investigations in bot functions be kept to /tells so as to not flood the org line too much. 13:09: [The Dojo] Chronita: Well, good lead in ;) 13:09: [The Dojo] Chronita: Some of the more popular functions of the bot. . . 13:10: [The Dojo] Chronita: the "online" command - shows everyone online from dojo and FotD 13:10: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Timed event in 30 minutes: MotD - Remember to attend this Saturday's Assembly for a discussion of the pre-SL patch and changes included therein 13:10: [The Dojo] Chronita: you can also do a "online all" to see the specifics of each player (rank, level, etc.) 13:11: [The Dojo] Maleene: lol.. think the clock is a little off... 13:11: [The Dojo] Chronita: Now, in order to add yourself to the bot 13:11: [The Dojo] Neurobatica: The bot tends to notice people sometimes when you say your first messsage on org line 13:12: [The Dojo] Chronita: you must tell it "notify on" to make sure, or as neuro said, simply speak on the org line if you have not since the bot went live 13:12: [The Dojo] Chronita: Now, that "Timed Event" message you saw a little while ago. . . 13:13: [The Dojo] Chronita: Right now I am using that as a MotD (Message of the Day) 13:13: [The Dojo] Chronita: It should announce every hour 13:13: [The Dojo] Chronita: And yes I'll be changing it after assembly ;) 13:14: [The Dojo] Chronita: Also, there is a "news" function that should present itself after you log on. 13:14: [The Dojo] Chronita: I'll put any major announcements on there as needed as well, and others can add small news stories if they wish :) 13:14: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged off 13:14: [The Dojo] Chronita: news 13:14: [The Dojo] Dojonet: loading news, please wait (may take a while). 13:14: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Todays news :: click to read. 13:15: [The Dojo] Chronita: you can call up the news with that command whenever you need as well 13:15: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged on - I am the lost soul that brings the light to new eyes ... May we all Walk in the Light :: Click for alternative character info. 13:16: [The Dojo] Chronita: Anyway, the bot has several other functions to take advantage of, all of which you can see on the help menu 13:16: [The Dojo] Chronita: Now, in a related topic. . . 13:16: [The Dojo] Chronita: Currently both our older bots that linked FotD and Dojo chat together are down 13:17: [The Dojo] Quickshock: Aw :( 13:17: [The Dojo] Munkeezon: punk left or just... not runing them? 13:17: [The Dojo] Chronita: This is just a temporary problem unrelated to the new bot, and hopefully we can get them up and running in the near future. 13:17: [The Dojo] Thaylia: would be fine, feels kinda lonely as alt *g 13:18: [The Dojo] Chronita: Punk should still be around - just have not seen him since the patch 13:19: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Xiahang logged off 13:19: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Xiahang logged on - 13:19: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, any basic questions about the new bot atm? (none about advanced functions pls) 13:20: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, we can get on to the next big topic then - the pre-SL patch :) 13:20: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged off 13:20: [The Dojo] Chronita: As many of you have no doubt seen already, the new patch has a number of nice features for us MAs :) 13:21: [The Dojo] Xiahang: yes i actually feel like an MA :) 13:21: [The Dojo] Maleene: =) 13:21: [The Dojo] Chronita: I'll go over the main changes now, then we can field questions about anything new in the patch afterwards. 13:21: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged on - I am the lost soul that brings the light to new eyes ... May we all Walk in the Light :: Click for alternative character info. 13:22: [The Dojo] Chronita: First change concerns damage. 13:22: [The Dojo] Chronita: All professions now have a different damage multiplier for 1000+ attack rating. 13:22: [The Dojo] Xiahang: *smiles* 13:23: [The Dojo] Chronita: For the most part, this means less damage for everyone concerned. 13:23: [The Dojo] Chronita: But for MAs, we have another change that counters and exceeds the negative. . 13:23: [The Dojo] Thaylia: Parry and Riposte? :-) 13:24: [The Dojo] Chronita: First, the item in the AO database that determines our fist damage from 200 skill to 1000 skill has been increased. 13:25: [The Dojo] Chronita: So everyone in that MA skill range should see better fist damage amounts. 13:25: [The Dojo] Chronita: Also, there are new items that continue increasing your damage past 1000 skill 13:26: [The Dojo] Chronita: This will ensure that MA damage continues to increase pastt 1000 as it is now and all the way to the 2000+ amounts expected thanks to Shadowlands :) 13:27: [The Dojo] Chronita: Basically, our damage is improved, and will continue to improve in the future while most other professions are dealing with lower-than-before amounts. 13:27: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged off 13:28: [The Dojo] Chronita: Also, MAs use a different damage template from all other professions using MA skill as a weapon now. 13:28: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Arrilorde logged on - SPOOON! 13:28: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged on - I am the lost soul that brings the light to new eyes ... May we all Walk in the Light :: Click for alternative character info. 13:28: [The Dojo] Chronita: The MA template is much greater, meaning we will indeed be the Martial Arts masters from now on :) 13:29: [The Dojo] Chronita: Now, a couple changes to MA weapons. . . 13:29: [The Dojo] Equipped: Does the attack rating above 1000 not increase damage the same way as attack rating below 1000. I mean the attack ratings impact on your ma item ? 13:29: [The Dojo] Chronita: Right Equipped - it is a different formula now 13:30: [The Dojo] Chronita: and every profession has a unique factor in the formula to determine how much dmg bonus they get 13:30: [The Dojo] Chronita: MAs have one of the larger bonuses among professions as well. 13:31: [The Dojo] Chronita: I'll post the exact formula in the next couple of days - Jayde and I are working on the last few kinks :) 13:31: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, now about MA weapons. . . 13:32: [The Dojo] Chronita: MA weapon damage might seem a bit lower now in a specific instance. . . 13:33: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged off 13:33: [The Dojo] Chronita: Because of the 1000+ skill dmg equation change, using a weapon over that amount of skill will yield lower amounts than before. 13:33: [The Dojo] Chronita: The change is not that great, but is somewhat noticable. 13:34: [The Dojo] Chronita: However, fist damage pretty much makes up for that atm, and if you do not use a MA weap at those high skill amounts, you have nothing to worry about at all ;) 13:34: [The Dojo] Chronita: Now the good news about MA weapons. . . 13:34: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged on - I am the lost soul that brings the light to new eyes ... May we all Walk in the Light :: Click for alternative character info. 13:34: [The Dojo] Munkeezon: Though now you can near over-equip your weapon and still do what Chronita is about to talk about 13:35: [The Dojo] Chronita: Finally! our MA special attacks (, etc) are now able to be used while using an MA weapon :) 13:35: [The Dojo] Thaylia: yay! 13:36: [The Dojo] Evilwill: Mine flower dont work with weps.. 13:36: [The Dojo] Chronita: These means no more having to take the weapon on and off to use them, or no more worrying about losing MA atk functionality if you want to begin using a MA weapon :) 13:36: [The Dojo] Chronita: A couple notes about this change. . . 13:37: [The Dojo] Chronita: The attacks still say "cannot wield weapons" on the description - dont pay attention to that ;) That is most likely still there because you can not use them with anything but an MA weapon. 13:38: [The Dojo] Chronita: To determine if you can use MA attacks with a weapon you are looking at. . . 13:38: [The Dojo] Maleene: maybe something FC forgot to change.. lol 13:38: [The Dojo] Chronita: - Look to see if it has the "MA for combined attack" line in the description 13:38: [The Dojo] Chronita: This line is new on almost all MA weaps as of this patch as well. . 13:39: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Xiahang logged off 13:39: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Xiahang logged on - 13:39: [The Dojo] Chronita: This is the amount of MA skill you need in order to have your fists working along with the weapon. 13:39: [The Dojo] Chronita: So, I would need 777 MA skill to use fists with that parry stick for example. 13:40: [The Dojo] Chronita: One last word about MA atks/weaps here. . . 13:40: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Thaylia logged off 13:40: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Thaylia logged on - Hello everyone, there´s no escape: I´m back :-) :: Click for alternative character info. 13:41: [The Dojo] Chronita: I have heard a few issues about them not working together, or refuse to work after a long fight, or if you have not zoned since you equipped the weapon. . . 13:41: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged off 13:41: [The Dojo] Chronita: If you experience any of these things, pls let me know in a private tell, or on the forums, or e-mail etc. 13:42: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged on - I am the lost soul that brings the light to new eyes ... May we all Walk in the Light :: Click for alternative character info. 13:42: [The Dojo] Chronita: I'm sure there are still quirks to be worked out there, and knowing about them will help me in getting them fixed :) 13:43: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, i'll take that question now - but pls hold others until the end. 13:43: [The Dojo] Chronita: Right now, you will still deal more damage with 1 or 2 parry sticks on + fists than with fists alone, esp. considering you can use MA atks as well now. 13:44: [The Dojo] Chronita: The only issue will be if when you get up to 1500-2000 or more MA skill 13:44: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Ivul logged off 13:44: [The Dojo] Chronita: At that point, MA fist damage might be so powerful that taking atks/min from fist to add more total with the weapons might not pay off. 13:45: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Ivul logged on - I have no need of a philosofic or |33t announcement when i log on =) :: Click for alternative character info. 13:45: [The Dojo] Chronita: Unfortunately, we do not have the equation finallized yet to check the damage calculations, so i cant give you any numbers on that 13:46: [The Dojo] Chronita: My personal opinion is that it might get to the point where fist alone damage is equal or better, but may not be so much better to where you feel "gimped" using parry sticks 13:47: [The Dojo] Chronita: You also have to consider the defensive bonuses parry sticks provide, amoung other things. . . 13:47: [The Dojo] Chronita: I'll make a big post with calculations and such once I have the tools at my disposal :) 13:47: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged off 13:47: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, now on to the other changes. . 13:47: [The Dojo] Chronita: Parry and Riposte 13:48: [The Dojo] Chronita: These have changed regarding how they behave 13:48: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged on - I am the lost soul that brings the light to new eyes ... May we all Walk in the Light :: Click for alternative character info. 13:48: [The Dojo] Chronita: In the new setup you can only parry and riposte if you have a weapon that allows you to, and can only be parried/riposted if your enemy does too. 13:49: [The Dojo] Chronita: Riposte itself is a whole new change. . . 13:49: [The Dojo] Chronita: It is now a passive skill like parry that allows you the chance to evade an incoming atk 13:50: [The Dojo] Chronita: Unlike parry however, if it is successful, you will be given a free "attack of opportunity" as well :) 13:50: [The Dojo] Chronita: Now, i have yet to see a riposte, so i do not know what kind of attack this is, but i am guess it might just be an extra fist atk 13:51: [The Dojo] Maleene: how about a test in arena after assembly ?? =) 13:51: [The Dojo] Chronita: This attack is instant and does not figure in to your regular attack scheme. 13:51: [The Dojo] Chronita: To break things down, here is the new defensive check progression: 13:51: [The Dojo] Chronita: 1 - Riposte Check 13:51: [The Dojo] Chronita: 2 - Parry Check 13:52: [The Dojo] Chronita: 3 - Regular Eave Check 13:52: [The Dojo] Chronita: Evade* 13:52: [The Dojo] Chronita: Basically we have three ways to escape certain attacks now :) 13:52: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Nadaline logged off 13:52: [The Dojo] Xiahang: how many points in teh skill would u calculate would be your percentage of the attack being pulled off ? or would be depending on lvl of mob? + % 13:53: [The Dojo] Chronita: Now for the specifics on parry/riposte as of now. 13:53: [The Dojo] Chronita: Only certain player melee weapons have the flags for the new functions. . . 13:53: [The Dojo] Chronita: Mosters are not set at all for the change yet 13:53: [The Dojo] Chronita: SO 13:54: [The Dojo] Chronita: the only parries/ripostes you can see are in PvP atm 13:54: [The Dojo] Chronita: You will not parry any mob, but you will so no parries from the mobs either :) 13:55: [The Dojo] Chronita: This is all temporary of course 13:55: [The Dojo] Evilwill: I volunteer ;-) 13:55: [The Dojo] Chronita: However ranged mobs should not parry in the future at all - thats a good thing :) 13:55: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged off 13:55: [The Dojo] Quickshock: Yeah, Mob parry was always annoying 13:55: [The Dojo] Chronita: Also all these weapons you are checking for the flags - htose have not all been added yet either, so do not make final decsions on those yet ;) 13:56: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: I have tested this out on mercs, which used to parry my fists all the time. Mobs cannot parry Dimach, brawl, or fists anymore =) 13:56: [The Dojo] Maleene: guess this is why they have made npc's damadge insane now 13:56: [The Dojo] Maleene: *damage 13:56: [The Dojo] Akidoe: yay 13:56: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: No more worrying about your dimach being parried at least =) 13:56: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged on - I am the lost soul that brings the light to new eyes ... May we all Walk in the Light :: Click for alternative character info. 13:56: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, we are about at the hour mark, so i'll stop here and open the floor to questions 13:57: [The Dojo] Chronita: you can ask about anything new as of last patch - not just the MA stuff 13:57: [The Dojo] Equipped: basically we don't know yet how effective parry and riposte will be ? 13:57: [The Dojo] Chronita: If you have a question/topic, pls stand now and be recognized :) 13:57: [The Dojo] Chronita: Right, since they are not totally implimented 13:58: [The Dojo] Chronita: however we have been told that riposte should not work as often as parry all other things being equal 13:58: [The Dojo] Chronita: ok Thaylia, go ahead :) 13:58: [The Dojo] Thaylia: with the last patch there has come a new panel 13:59: [The Dojo] Thaylia: I´m trying to get used to it and found out the most of it 13:59: [The Dojo] Thaylia: or some at least, but still missing the place/spot where I can see my ping i.e. 13:59: [The Dojo] Thaylia: any ideas? 13:59: [The Dojo] Maleene: use old gui =) since new GUI needs more tweaking 14:00: [The Dojo] Equipped: you cant as of now 14:00: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: The ping indicator is going to be implimented int tomorrow's patch I believe, that or in the future, they are working on it. 14:00: [The Dojo] Najla: Does the same go for other options ? 14:00: [The Dojo] Evilwill: 14:00: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: Cz posted on the forums of the known issues in this patch, that was one of them he noted that they are going to fix. 14:00: [The Dojo] Chronita: right, there are a lot of things mechanically-wise or gui-wise that were "half-done" if you will 14:01: [The Dojo] Thaylia: thank you :-) 14:01: [The Dojo] Maleene: like the whole of AO =P 14:01: [The Dojo] Chronita: hehe 14:01: [The Dojo] Cutephyter: =) 14:01: [The Dojo] Chronita: good Q Thay :) 14:01: [The Dojo] Chronita: ok, Munkeezon? 14:01: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged off 14:01: [The Dojo] Munkeezon: So if parry and riposte are important to MAs, will they be modifying the MA item *and* all 67% ma based weapons to include it? 14:02: [The Dojo] Chronita: I would hope so 14:02: [The Dojo] Chronita: atm the MA item does have the flags tho 14:02: [The Dojo] Munkeezon: Shades right now have lots of parry + riposte weapons 14:02: [The Dojo] Maleene: I hope all melee weapons get the parry and ripsote flags.. or else we are gimps again 14:02: [The Dojo] Munkeezon: ah great 14:02: [The Dojo] Maleene: *riposte.. 14:03: [The Dojo] Chronita: and certain MA weaps do too - parry stick does not (ironically), but that has already been identified as an upcoming change by FC :) 14:03: [The Dojo] Aunfire: Fists will never parry/riposte? 14:03: [The Dojo] Munkeezon: They will 14:03: [The Dojo] Chronita: no they will and do :) 14:03: [The Dojo] Munkeezon: and mobs with fissts will parry/riposte you 14:03: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Xiahang logged off 14:03: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Xiahang logged on - 14:03: [The Dojo] Aunfire: cool 14:03: [The Dojo] Chronita: well, not sure about riposte in the "do" category, it might not be working at all yet ;) 14:04: [The Dojo] Aunfire: only in PvP atm right? 14:04: [The Dojo] Maleene: yes.. 14:04: [The Dojo] Chronita: right, that is your only chance to see it right now 14:04: [The Dojo] Chronita: ok, Emosion you are next :) 14:04: [The Dojo] Emosion: about MA heal nano in SL, since we are gong to deal with more damage at lvl200+, but we don't have any better heal nano. the lvl gets higher MA heal will be useless I think. is ther any tought putting better heal nano in the future i'm wondering... 14:04: [The Dojo] Dojonet: user has not added any info 14:05: [The Dojo] Chronita: hehe, yes indeed 14:05: [The Dojo] Maleene: MA's got a prof. perk line that adds a "lifetap" steals hp from your target and heals you.. 14:05: [The Dojo] Chronita: I have argued at length already with FC about a couple new MA heals for SL. . . 14:06: [The Dojo] Aunfire: Drains! woot! :-) 14:06: [The Dojo] Emosion: ah.. din't know that :) 14:06: [The Dojo] Maleene: but we still need new heal nano that would be self only =) 14:06: [The Dojo] Chronita: Basically there is nothing planned concerning that atm tho - so no new MA heals at SL launch :( 14:06: [The Dojo] Maleene: press SHIF + P and look at Disharmony in Proffesion Perks tab 14:06: [The Dojo] Equipped: Basically if they don't give as a new heal that line would be useless after 200 14:06: [The Dojo] Emosion: thank you.. chronita :) 14:07: [The Dojo] Chronita: i or anyone else cant comment on disharmony effectiveness yet 14:07: [The Dojo] Emosion: :) 14:07: [The Dojo] Chronita: once SL is released, i'll provide my take on it ;) 14:07: [The Dojo] Emosion: thanks :) 14:08: [The Dojo] Emosion: for all 14:08: [The Dojo] Munkeezon: I can say I don't recomment plowing all your perks right into what looks good right away though. 14:08: [The Dojo] Evilwill: yeah 14:08: [The Dojo] Chronita: Xiahang did you have a question? 14:08: [The Dojo] Evilwill: it can be messy 14:08: [The Dojo] Xiahang: yes hopefully u didn't answer this question in absence :) i'm kinda confused abouth the new faction button. 14:08: [The Dojo] Chronita: ok 14:08: [The Dojo] Chronita: faction is a SL addition 14:08: [The Dojo] Xiahang: ok 14:08: [The Dojo] Xiahang: ty 14:09: [The Dojo] Chronita: basically you'll have to wait unitl SL before seeing what it is all about :) 14:09: [The Dojo] Chronita: and if anyone did not know already - SL comes out this tuesday :) 14:09: [The Dojo] Chronita: any last questions? 14:09: [The Dojo] Maleene: way too soon i think... still lot of bugs 14:10: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, last order of business is the yalm drawing name gathering :) 14:11: [The Dojo] Chronita: This week we revert to the old method of gathering names at one assembly, then drawing for the winner the next :) 14:11: [The Dojo] Dojonet: Preta logged on - I am the lost soul that brings the light to new eyes ... May we all Walk in the Light :: Click for alternative character info. 14:11: [The Dojo] Chronita: To review the simple rules - if you are a unit member or better, dont have a yalm, and are here, you may enter :) 14:12: [The Dojo] Chronita: To stay eligible you must be at next week's assembly for the drawing. 14:12: [The Dojo] Chronita: So, if anyone is eligible and would like to enter, please say "I" in the org chat now :) 14:13: [The Dojo] Chronita: I said that out loud right? ;) 14:13: [The Dojo] Ivul: AYE :) 14:13: [The Dojo] Xiahang: yes sensei :) 14:13: [The Dojo] Chronita: hehe ok 14:13: [The Dojo] Dalsa: Nadaline asked me to enter her name but as th rules say no, well...... 14:13: [The Dojo] Najla: I think Nadaline should be considered ... she seems to have gone LD 14:14: [The Dojo] Chronita: yes I have Nadaline down - she spoke to me during assembly :) 14:14: [The Dojo] Chronita: I hope she can make it next time ;) 14:14: [The Dojo] Chronita: Ok, let's end the assembly here now with a /pray :)