21:15: [The Dojo] Nikh: LETS START THE MEETING
21:15: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
21:15: [The Dojo] Ivul: they will tire if we dont acknowledge them
21:15: [The Dojo] Nikh: BEFORE WE DO
21:15: [The Dojo] Shuya: where is the meeting? :P
21:15: [The Dojo] Rephlector: sweet
21:15: [The Dojo] Flupper: lol there is a spy over there
21:15: [The Dojo] Nikh: WE ARE MANY TONIGHT
21:15: [The Dojo] Flupper: acidthunder
21:15: [The Dojo] Arthemi: hi every !!! i can t be here but i listen to u :)
21:15: [The Dojo] Nikh: SO WE WILL HAVE TO STRUCTURE ABIT  THE ASSEMBY
21:16: [The Dojo] Dimlight: abit what does that mean?
21:16: [The Dojo] Kresslack: *psst* nikh your CAPS LOCK is on ;P
21:16: [The Dojo] Nikh: BASICALLY WWE CANNOT ALL PSPEAK TOGETHER
21:16: [The Dojo] Nikh: YES KRESS THATS ON PURPOSE
21:16: [The Dojo] Dimlight: pspeak?
21:16: [The Dojo] Nikh: :)
21:16: [The Dojo] Dimlight: =P
21:16: [The Dojo] Whootish: *psst* I think that's intentional...
21:16: [The Dojo] Dimlight: *psst* really?
21:16: [The Dojo] Nikh: I SUGGEST THE FOLLOWING SIMPLE RULE:
21:16: [The Dojo] Whootish: *psst* baka...
21:17: [The Dojo] Nikh: DO NOT TALK
21:17: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok master
21:17: [The Dojo] Nikh: UNLESS YOU FIRST STAND UP
21:17: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: : )
21:17: [The Dojo] Jirex: ---------------------------------------------------
21:17: [The Dojo] Dimlight: relly? =)
21:17: [The Dojo] Nikh: AND TRY TO KEEP IT IN ORDER
21:17: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok.
21:17: [The Dojo] Nikh: do we agree on that?
21:17: [The Dojo] Flupper: yeah
21:17: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: Yep
21:17: [The Dojo] Rephlector: *cough*
21:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: REPH
21:18: [The Dojo] Whootish: Yes. :D
21:18: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: aye
21:18: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: yea
21:18: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: yup
21:18: [The Dojo] Fantomen: yeah
21:18: [The Dojo] Rephlector: are we going to have a pray before the meeting?
21:18: [The Dojo] Ivul: yes
21:18: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok we had a similar sott of disipline in first grade.. exept we pased a stick around..
21:18: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok 
21:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: now we are not in first grade
21:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: so no stick around
21:18: [The Dojo] Dimlight: not u maybe..
21:18: [The Dojo] Dimlight: =)
21:18: [The Dojo] Kresslack: i like stcks
21:19: [The Dojo] Ivul: please dim......
21:19: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
21:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: lets have  a pray as reph suggested
21:19: [The Dojo] Whootish: Concentrate, people. :)
21:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: OK well try to do this quickly
21:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: and efficiently
21:20: [The Dojo] Nikh: did most of you have a look at the website and the forums?
21:20: [The Dojo] Ivul: yes
21:20: [The Dojo] Rephlector: yeah
21:20: [The Dojo] Dimlight: when..
21:20: [The Dojo] Flupper: yeah
21:20: [The Dojo] Kandila: yes
21:20: [The Dojo] Chronita: y
21:20: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: a short one
21:20: [The Dojo] Saintgordon: y
21:20: [The Dojo] Jetlix: yes
21:20: [The Dojo] Lovegod: y
21:20: [The Dojo] Whootish: Yup.
21:20: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: Still not able to access
21:20: [The Dojo] Bisan: Aye
21:20: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: yes
21:20: [The Dojo] Liost: y
21:20: [The Dojo] Fantomen: Ypu
21:20: [The Dojo] Dimlight: i was in there a couple of days ago
21:20: [The Dojo] Kresslack: stop stop STOP! we have to stand up!
21:20: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: yes
21:20: [The Dojo] Dimlight: so yeah..
21:20: [The Dojo] Arthemi: yep
21:20: [The Dojo] Kresslack: stop
21:20: [The Dojo] Dimlight: how long ago you mean?
21:21: [The Dojo] Nikh: you can say es without standing up :)
21:21: [The Dojo] Dimlight: had a question..
21:21: [The Dojo] Dimlight: sorry..
21:21: [The Dojo] Whippingstar: web addy for the newbie?
21:21: [The Dojo] Nikh: thedojo.lbvp.com
21:21: [The Dojo] Dimlight: =(
21:22: [The Dojo] Whippingstar: thanks :)
21:22: [The Dojo] Nikh: OK PPL CONCENTRATE :)
21:22: [The Dojo] Shuya: (the site stilldoesnt work with me)
21:22: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: Whoops doorbell
21:22: [The Dojo] Nikh: Topic 1: ranking system
21:22: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: or www.lbvp.com/thedojo/
21:22: [The Dojo] Nikh: do you all know about the change earluier this week?
21:23: [The Dojo] Rephlector: yes and no
21:23: [The Dojo] Dimlight: no
21:23: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: nm
21:23: [The Dojo] Bisan: Nope
21:23: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: i am only in since yesterday, so...
21:23: [The Dojo] Flupper: just sum it up
21:23: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: y
21:23: [The Dojo] Rephlector: but i have forgotten a little of it....
21:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: OK i sum it up:
21:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: before we had 4 ranks
21:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: 1 initiate
21:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: 2 apprentice 
21:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: etc
21:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: the pb is you can only invite when 4
21:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: ie lvl 100 with the old system
21:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: and all the orgs have the same pb
21:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: so we did like most other org
21:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: we changed to department
21:25: [The Dojo] Nikh: with 6 ranks
21:25: [The Dojo] Nikh: initiate are 3 - still cant invite
21:25: [The Dojo] Jirex: Department is pants 2 many orgs have it
21:25: [The Dojo] Whootish: Are Funcom planning to change this system anytime soon?
21:25: [The Dojo] Jirex: Tac-V85 Escapee
21:25: [The Dojo] Nikh: good question. "they are aware of the pb. and looking into it"
21:25: [The Dojo] Kresslack: pb?
21:25: [The Dojo] Dimlight: yeah like in all the MA bugs
21:25: [The Dojo] Rephlector: problem
21:26: [The Dojo] Rephlector: pb that is...
21:26: [The Dojo] Whootish: So basically 'no' then. :)
21:26: [The Dojo] Nikh: in the meantime we have to switch to department, althgough rank name sucks
21:26: [The Dojo] Nikh: when FC fix it, we can assess
21:26: [The Dojo] Jirex: Tac-V85 Runaway when i say
21:26: [The Dojo] Kresslack: jirex what u doing
21:27: [The Dojo] Jirex: Hunting
21:27: [The Dojo] Jirex: just started
21:27: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: wrong challe bro
21:27: [The Dojo] Rephlector: doh!
21:27: [The Dojo] Whootish: Can you not say these things in Team Chat?
21:27: [The Dojo] Nikh: jirex please do not use the org channel
21:27: [The Dojo] Shuya: stop spamming please :P
21:27: [The Dojo] Jirex: was an accendent
21:27: [The Dojo] Jirex: sorry
21:27: [The Dojo] Nikh: np :)
21:27: [The Dojo] Nikh: OK so: in the change
21:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: everybody was demoted to applicant
21:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: so i need to promote you back
21:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: which i did for most of you
21:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: if not, let me know after the meeting
21:28: [The Dojo] Nikh: Questions? comments?
21:28: [The Dojo] Dimlight: what are the titles?
21:29: [The Dojo] Dimlight: nm
21:29: [The Dojo] Nikh: The officila rank name WE use are the titlelevels
21:29: [The Dojo] Nikh: the rank name displayed are those of the department
21:29: [The Dojo] Nikh: and they suck
21:29: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: agreed
21:29: [The Dojo] Whootish: Too true.
21:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: anything else?
21:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: tahsoky?
21:30: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: I think that nothing much can be done till fc makes changes, i think this topic is kinda dead
21:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes 
21:30: [The Dojo] Nikh: kandila?
21:31: [The Dojo] Whootish: I agree. We have little say in the matter.
21:31: [The Dojo] Kandila: I was wondering if anyone ever does team missions in the guild?
21:31: [The Dojo] Nikh: can we answer this at the end of the assembly?
21:31: [The Dojo] Kandila: sure
21:31: [The Dojo] Dimlight: make em or play em?
21:32: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
21:32: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok topic 2: Dress code
21:32: [The Dojo] Nikh: did you read the thread about it?
21:32: [The Dojo] Dimlight: nope
21:32: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: y
21:32: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: y
21:32: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: yes
21:32: [The Dojo] Kashuya: Yup
21:32: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: n
21:32: [The Dojo] Shuya: no i cant acces the site :(
21:32: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: no
21:32: [The Dojo] Flupper: yup
21:32: [The Dojo] Smilin: y
21:32: [The Dojo] Fantomen: y
21:32: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok quick recap for those who didnt: 
21:32: [The Dojo] Rephlector: no i havent
21:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: the idea would be to have a dress code during social events
21:33: [The Dojo] Dimlight: =(
21:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: the proposition is the oriental suits
21:33: [The Dojo] Dimlight: =(
21:33: [The Dojo] Nikh: with potentially color code for ranks
21:33: [The Dojo] Rephlector: is the suit i have on now good?
21:34: [The Dojo] Dimlight: and mine?
21:34: [The Dojo] Whootish: It might lead to confusion for those that don't use the floaty name things...
21:34: [The Dojo] Jirex: use the commander cloaks and stuff
21:34: [The Dojo] Rephlector: ok
21:34: [The Dojo] Nikh: we need something that distinguished the org
21:34: [The Dojo] Whootish: Also, are they easily available to buy?
21:35: [The Dojo] Dimlight: MAy i sugest bikinis?
21:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: that is sortable
21:35: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia?
21:35: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: lol
21:35: [The Dojo] Whootish: I think social clothes may be a bad idea. What about those who have to buff heavily to wear their armour?
21:35: [The Dojo] Kashuya: You can find them quite regularly in Neutral General Stores
21:35: [The Dojo] Jirex: problem with bakinis is people have armour that need buffs 2 wear so if it is a cloak on back location its ok
21:35: [The Dojo] Timia: Uh, forgot my point. Oh yeah...
21:35: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: Plz..lets keep to the agenda..my time is limited..sorry
21:36: [The Dojo] Kresslack: jirex, there are armor cloaks you know
21:36: [The Dojo] Timia: Official social events should probably be done with a dress code.
21:36: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: trenchcoats fit over armor 
21:36: [The Dojo] Jirex: yeh i suppose
21:36: [The Dojo] Dimlight: comander cloaks?
21:36: [The Dojo] Nikh: we can make exception for those who over-euuip
21:36: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: too common
21:36: [The Dojo] Whootish: Good. :)
21:36: [The Dojo] Liost: red comander cloaks
21:36: [The Dojo] Timia: Like where we represent the Dojo in any way. Personally I believe the oriental suits are good.
21:36: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: i have something to propose
21:36: [The Dojo] Nikh: high lvl ppl like roub have volunteered to buy many for the others
21:36: [The Dojo] Bisan: The MA suit´s are usualy avilable in Harry´s.
21:37: [The Dojo] Flupper: but we are martial artists. We need to look like ... martial artists ...
21:37: [The Dojo] Dimlight: really?
21:37: [The Dojo] Kresslack: and ivul
21:37: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: Me too
21:37: [The Dojo] Kresslack: ivul wil lbuy you whatever you want
21:37: [The Dojo] Dimlight: he will?
21:37: [The Dojo] Nikh: tahsoky?
21:37: [The Dojo] Kresslack: no lol
21:37: [The Dojo] Rephlector: are the oriental suits called "oriental cloaks"?
21:37: [The Dojo] Dimlight: nope..
21:37: [The Dojo] Timia: 
21:37: [The Dojo] Kresslack: i am trying to get him to say something;P i think hes  dead
21:37: [The Dojo] Rephlector: ok thnx
21:37: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: I think that a dress code is not a bad idea, but over eq is a prob
21:38: [The Dojo] Saintgordon: 
21:38: [The Dojo] Nikh: who overquips so much he cannot buff himself?
21:38: [The Dojo] Rephlector: eq?
21:38: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: me
21:38: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: Me
21:38: [The Dojo] Flupper: alot does
21:38: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: ool
21:38: [The Dojo] Whootish: If an exception can be made for overequippers then I don't see a problem.
21:38: [The Dojo] Dimlight: i have done it..
21:38: [The Dojo] Nikh: smilin?
21:39: [The Dojo] Kresslack: my briefs are overequipped
21:39: [The Dojo] Smilin: Where's the point of a dress code when we all know exceptions up front?
21:39: [The Dojo] Kresslack: let me tell you what, you cant imagine what i did to get into these beautys
21:39: [The Dojo] Dimlight: then no helmets either..
21:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: we should try as much to have a dress code, and be real and aloow for exceptions
21:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: hosh?
21:39: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: we have enough higher level chars around... we should be able to buff those o eq guys on our own after the meeting
21:39: [The Dojo] Ivul: PEOPLE
21:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: ivul?
21:39: [The Dojo] Nikh: agree hosh
21:40: [The Dojo] Ivul: IM SORRY TO INTERRUPT
21:40: [The Dojo] Ivul: i have to leave
21:40: [The Dojo] Dimlight: *psst* capslock
21:40: [The Dojo] Dimlight: nm
21:40: [The Dojo] Kresslack: noooo
21:40: [The Dojo] Ivul: going to the doc
21:40: [The Dojo] Kresslack: not ivul!
21:40: [The Dojo] Ivul: im bleeding too much
21:40: [The Dojo] Nikh: we have a doc in the org :)
21:40: [The Dojo] Kresslack: bye ivul!!!!!
21:40: [The Dojo] Kresslack: oh take care!!!!
21:40: [The Dojo] Jetlix: i am willing to buff str and sta with my doc and enf 
21:40: [The Dojo] Dimlight: really?
21:40: [The Dojo] Rephlector: bye ivul
21:40: [The Dojo] Flupper: see ya ivul, good luck
21:40: [The Dojo] Bisan: bye
21:40: [The Dojo] Whootish: Later dude. :)
21:40: [The Dojo] Lovegod: cya
21:40: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: We could always have a dept Trader like doc
21:40: [The Dojo] Nikh: bye ivul
21:40: [The Dojo] Kresslack: hurry ivul just go! gonow!
21:40: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: Hosh i disagree, We are ALL MAs and we dont have the nesisary buffs to Over eq some of our armor
21:40: [The Dojo] Dimlight: bye ivul..
21:40: [The Dojo] Ivul: ill c u all later
21:40: [The Dojo] Kresslack: GO GET OUTA HERE
21:40: [The Dojo] Kresslack: your more important
21:41: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: Bye ivul
21:41: [The Dojo] Nikh: COULD WE AGREE TO TRY?
21:41: [The Dojo] Shuya: it a cool thing in a RPG i think
21:41: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: dept fixer wouldnt be bad neither
21:41: [The Dojo] Nikh: and see how it comes out?
21:41: [The Dojo] Whootish: Should we put it to the vote?
21:41: [The Dojo] Nikh: white?
21:41: [The Dojo] Dimlight: sure just tell me where to buy it..
21:41: [The Dojo] Flupper: i agree to try :)
21:42: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: Most would follow dress code, better to know we allow acceptions too
21:42: [The Dojo] Rephlector: stand up if you agre
21:42: [The Dojo] Dimlight: though bikinis areway cooler
21:42: [The Dojo] Rephlector: agree
21:42: [The Dojo] Nikh: agre
21:42: [The Dojo] Jirex: agree
21:42: [The Dojo] Nikh: waou dont all stand up!
21:42: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: 100% comeon
21:42: [The Dojo] Kashuya: Aye
21:42: [The Dojo] Dimlight: but will the guild pay for it?
21:43: [The Dojo] Flupper: its 2500 creds i think
21:43: [The Dojo] Nikh: dim dont worry about buring them
21:43: [The Dojo] Jirex: Thats not bad
21:43: [The Dojo] Dimlight: was thinkin about the lower lvls...
21:43: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: I'll help shit
21:43: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: lol
21:43: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: i have a sugestion
21:43: [The Dojo] Nikh: high lvl ppl will help
21:43: [The Dojo] Nikh: tahsoky
21:43: [The Dojo] Dimlight: help shit? =)
21:43: [The Dojo] Lovegod: lets move on plz
21:43: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: lvls 1 to 50 wear blue 
21:44: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: 50+wear black
21:44: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: oriental suit
21:44: [The Dojo] Dimlight: reds?
21:44: [The Dojo] Dimlight: cool..
21:44: [The Dojo] Nikh: 1 color per rank
21:44: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: reds for 100+... one day
21:44: [The Dojo] Dimlight: thanks
21:44: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: nm new idea
21:44: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
21:44: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: lets wear cloacks
21:44: [The Dojo] Bisan: Now Dim have one
21:44: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: in expensive and they fit on
21:44: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: over amror
21:45: [The Dojo] Rephlector: i have a suggestion,when we are having meetings lets be quick to start it and in the meeting let's stick to the Topics.....
21:45: [The Dojo] Dimlight: doh..
21:45: [The Dojo] Nikh: we are in the topic
21:45: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: rephlector we are on one
21:45: [The Dojo] Timia: To many wear cloaks already, and there aren't that many cloaks around.
21:45: [The Dojo] Rephlector: just to make it efficent and quick
21:45: [The Dojo] Nikh: agree timia
21:45: [The Dojo] Dimlight: when will we ask questions?
21:45: [The Dojo] Nikh: we are
21:45: [The Dojo] Rephlector: i know im just speaking about when we are not...
21:45: [The Dojo] Nikh: snake?
21:46: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: timia that is one way of solveing the over equip prob
21:46: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: can we 'buy' custom clothes from a 'friendly' vendor who builds them for us or is that not implemented yet?
21:46: [The Dojo] Dimlight: what+
21:46: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ?
21:46: [The Dojo] Nikh: nothing like that
21:46: [The Dojo] Jirex: We need a Ultima online tailor :)
21:46: [The Dojo] Timia: Yes, but there will not be enforced, there will be exceptions?
21:47: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: I was thinking that building cloaks, etc. might be a trade skill, etc.
21:47: [The Dojo] Nikh: OK PPL WE NEED TO MOVE ON
21:47: [The Dojo] Nikh: dim?
21:47: [The Dojo] Dimlight: will we get like a loggo for the guild?
21:47: [The Dojo] Dimlight: on our clothes
21:47: [The Dojo] Tenchin: hello all 
21:47: [The Dojo] Dimlight: sometime?
21:47: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: we need to acomplish something
21:47: [The Dojo] Nikh: we can discuss that later 
21:48: [The Dojo] Nikh: PLZ HOLD ON
21:48: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok 
21:48: [The Dojo] Nikh: LETS FINISH WIHT CLOTHES
21:48: [The Dojo] Flupper: yeah keep to topic
21:48: [The Dojo] Nikh: chro?
21:48: [The Dojo] Chronita: i suggest more discussion on message boards and vote next time.
21:48: [The Dojo] Nikh: Agree
21:48: [The Dojo] Dimlight: aye
21:48: [The Dojo] Flupper: Agree
21:48: [The Dojo] Whootish: Yeah.
21:48: [The Dojo] Nikh: this is the purpose of forums
21:48: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: yup
21:48: [The Dojo] Jirex: Can i make a suggestion
21:48: [The Dojo] Nikh: but we all need to beon the forums
21:48: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: so how many colors of oriental suits are there?
21:48: [The Dojo] Nikh: jirex?
21:48: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: agree
21:48: [The Dojo] Nikh: blue red black
21:49: [The Dojo] Jirex: Right we talking about colour co ordinating the diff ranks
21:49: [The Dojo] Flupper: 
21:49: [The Dojo] Tenchin: i come to rome now ok
21:49: [The Dojo] Jirex: Well in Miir There about a lot of differant colour boots for example
21:49: [The Dojo] Dimlight: 
21:49: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: 
21:49: [The Dojo] Dimlight: where is miir?
21:49: [The Dojo] Jirex: or gloves
21:49: [The Dojo] Jirex: in trade
21:49: [The Dojo] Nikh: jirex suit are all over you cannot wear anything else
21:50: [The Dojo] Jirex: underneithe trade grid
21:50: [The Dojo] Dimlight: could u show me?
21:50: [The Dojo] Jirex: im in lush#
21:50: [The Dojo] Nikh: 4 titles only kash
21:50: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
21:50: [The Dojo] Nikh: LETS STOP HERE
21:50: [The Dojo] Nikh: AND VOTE
21:50: [The Dojo] Nikh: THE VOTE IS:
21:51: [The Dojo] Nikh: AGREE OR NOT TO TRY ORIENTAL SUIT FOR NEXT MEETING? COLOR WILL BE DISUCUSSED ON TH EFORUMS
21:51: [The Dojo] Nikh: Stand up for yes
21:51: [The Dojo] Jirex: Agree
21:51: [The Dojo] Tenchin: im in rome red womps and not see the guild
21:51: [The Dojo] Jirex: All trhat agree say aye
21:51: [The Dojo] Dimlight: south
21:51: [The Dojo] Flupper: left tenc
21:51: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: aye
21:51: [The Dojo] Kandila: aye
21:51: [The Dojo] Tenchin: ok
21:51: [The Dojo] Dimlight: aye!
21:51: [The Dojo] Saintgordon: yes
21:51: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: aye
21:52: [The Dojo] Tenchin: i see 
21:52: [The Dojo] Bisan: yea
21:52: [The Dojo] Nikh: good agreed then
21:52: [The Dojo] Flupper: aye
21:52: [The Dojo] Whootish: Count me in. :)
21:52: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: aye
21:52: [The Dojo] Shuya: yay
21:52: [The Dojo] Kresslack: i think sandzibar is afk
21:52: [The Dojo] Rephlector: yup
21:52: [The Dojo] Arthemi: yep :)
21:52: [The Dojo] Tenchin: wouaa big people
21:52: [The Dojo] Whootish: Even so, the vote was passed...
21:52: [The Dojo] Jirex: woh nice dimach :)
21:52: [The Dojo] Jirex: np
21:52: [The Dojo] Jirex: jesus miss tell
21:52: [The Dojo] Nikh: TOPIC 3: (quicker) mailing list
21:52: [The Dojo] Nikh: i sum up:
21:53: [The Dojo] Nikh: the idea would be to have a miling list to send you important news
21:53: [The Dojo] Nikh: quesiotn is yes or now and private oor public
21:53: [The Dojo] Rephlector: sound good to me
21:53: [The Dojo] Dimlight: good to me
21:53: [The Dojo] Nikh: WHO AGREES?
21:53: [The Dojo] Kresslack: yes private
21:53: [The Dojo] Dimlight: AYE!
21:53: [The Dojo] Flupper: aye
21:53: [The Dojo] Shuya: yes
21:53: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: wait
21:53: [The Dojo] Bisan: Yea
21:53: [The Dojo] Nikh: good agreed in pronciple
21:53: [The Dojo] Jirex: aye
21:53: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: public means what
21:53: [The Dojo] Nikh: who wants public (on the website)?
21:53: [The Dojo] Arthemi: yep !
21:54: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: pulic news
21:54: [The Dojo] Dimlight: hmm.. dun no..
21:54: [The Dojo] Nikh: (again raise if agre)?
21:54: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: aye, what is difference between 'private' and 'public'?
21:54: [The Dojo] Whootish: I assume private would be email...
21:54: [The Dojo] Nikh: private is only I have it
21:54: [The Dojo] Dimlight: you mean that anyone can see our mail?
21:54: [The Dojo] Kresslack: a mailing list on a website? you mean giving away our emails?
21:54: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes thats public
21:54: [The Dojo] Kresslack: wait up
21:54: [The Dojo] Kresslack: wait
21:54: [The Dojo] Whippingstar: if public is publishing my email on the web site...  no thank you
21:54: [The Dojo] Dimlight: wait a minute
21:54: [The Dojo] Rephlector: i would like in mail too,then i would know itas soon as i get mail
21:54: [The Dojo] Rephlector: i check my mail all the time
21:54: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: I just want the news to be on the site
21:54: [The Dojo] Nikh: OK THEN I GUESS ITS PRIVATE
21:54: [The Dojo] Flupper: yup
21:54: [The Dojo] Shuya: no thats not a mailing list principle
21:55: [The Dojo] Dimlight: id like it if no one else got it so to say..
21:55: [The Dojo] Dimlight: AYE!
21:55: [The Dojo] Smilin: private is good
21:55: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: private
21:55: [The Dojo] Nikh: snake?
21:55: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: he's saying the website has a mailing list that is not available to the public to spam us...
21:55: [The Dojo] Rephlector: private :)
21:55: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia?
21:55: [The Dojo] Timia: There exists online services that can be used for this. That way it will be not much work to make it.
21:56: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes i will consider that
21:56: [The Dojo] Nikh: TOPIC 4: Tournament
21:56: [The Dojo] Nikh: this is mearly an update
21:56: [The Dojo] Nikh: to tell you that some have started to test the concept
21:56: [The Dojo] Nikh: and once we  have it worked out
21:56: [The Dojo] Flupper: and i won :)
21:56: [The Dojo] Nikh: well organize a trounament
21:56: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: hhe
21:56: [The Dojo] Lovegod: :(
21:56: [The Dojo] Dimlight: sounds good..
21:56: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: sounds good
21:57: [The Dojo] Nikh: Flupper won in htat she died 2 sec after love
21:57: [The Dojo] Rephlector: sound good
21:57: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: lol
21:57: [The Dojo] Nikh: dim?
21:57: [The Dojo] Rephlector: will tournaments be listed on the web-page? time,date etc...?
21:57: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes
21:57: [The Dojo] Neverdawn: y
21:57: [The Dojo] Dimlight: well.. been thinkin about if there is any.. fighting between members..
21:57: [The Dojo] Dimlight: how will it be solved?
21:57: [The Dojo] Dimlight: in the arena or?
21:58: [The Dojo] Nikh: good point. we ll discuss it. but separately
21:58: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
21:58: [The Dojo] Nikh: bisan?
21:58: [The Dojo] Bisan: Rules? I meen what is alowed to be used.
21:58: [The Dojo] Nikh: rules are being teseted
21:58: [The Dojo] Bisan: ok
21:58: [The Dojo] Nikh: to see whats best
21:58: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: Sugestion for off topic
21:58: [The Dojo] Nikh: hosh?
21:58: [The Dojo] Kresslack: guys i have to leave the circle but i will till  be paying attention
21:58: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: How do you compensate for the different levels? Have tournament classes?
21:58: [The Dojo] Flupper: that is what we are testing
21:58: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes
21:59: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
21:59: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: ?
21:59: [The Dojo] Nikh: tahsoky?
21:59: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: I would like to sugest that a council of the dojo be made, for fair decsion makeing and argument solveing
21:59: [The Dojo] Nikh: poitn taken. will also be put on forum
21:59: [The Dojo] Nikh: for debate
22:00: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: k
22:00: [The Dojo] Nikh: OK TOPIC 5:
22:00: [The Dojo] Nikh: sensei
22:00: [The Dojo] Nikh: i sum up:
22:00: [The Dojo] Nikh: the idea was to have a sensei of some kind. 
22:00: [The Dojo] Nikh: htis was debated on the forum
22:01: [The Dojo] Nikh: but it seems it is a bit confusing with me
22:01: [The Dojo] Dimlight: we got one?
22:01: [The Dojo] Nikh: so  its not sure we want one anymore
22:01: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: question
22:01: [The Dojo] Nikh: bisan?
22:01: [The Dojo] Bisan: Why not have a few difrent "titles" like sensei, champion etc for diferent things.
22:02: [The Dojo] Nikh: we'll open a discusioon on the subject
22:02: [The Dojo] Nikh: tahsoky?
22:02: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: I think that a person with a tiltle should have a responsibility and something to offer, if there is no responsability there should be no tittle.
22:02: [The Dojo] Nikh: good point
22:03: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: Other than that it is nothing more than braggin rights
22:03: [The Dojo] Nikh: that one of the reasons we thought about fropping a specific sensei
22:03: [The Dojo] Nikh: reph you had a question?
22:03: [The Dojo] Rephlector: no its stupid...
22:03: [The Dojo] Rephlector: ;)
22:03: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: people stand if yuo wana talk
22:03: [The Dojo] Dimlight: come on
22:03: [The Dojo] Nikh: he stood up
22:03: [The Dojo] Nikh: snake
22:04: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: instead of ONE sensei, what about a council of several?
22:04: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: oh
22:04: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: i belive i made the pint
22:04: [The Dojo] Nikh: good idea i think
22:04: [The Dojo] Nikh: hish?
22:04: [The Dojo] Nikh: hosh?
22:04: [The Dojo] Tenchin: afk 2min
22:04: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: like.... one responsible for education of newbies... one for external relations, internal affairs...
22:04: [The Dojo] Nikh: goodidea. wrote down
22:04: [The Dojo] Nikh: rephlector?
22:05: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: seconding hosh
22:05: [The Dojo] Nikh: reph?
22:05: [The Dojo] Rephlector: ok ill saiy it after all....*cleares throat* what about a Newbie Advisor...someone make a char to help newbies like in getting lv fast & and provide them with money to start with and equipmen etc...
22:06: [The Dojo] Nikh: that is the role of every one
22:06: [The Dojo] Nikh: but we can have
22:06: [The Dojo] Nikh: 1 person more specificlaly 
22:06: [The Dojo] Nikh: responsible for that
22:06: [The Dojo] Nikh: to be debated
22:06: [The Dojo] Rephlector: i would like to
22:06: [The Dojo] Nikh: dim?
22:06: [The Dojo] Rephlector: but i dunno if im good enough
22:06: [The Dojo] Tenchin: back
22:06: [The Dojo] Nikh: k reph
22:07: [The Dojo] Nikh: dim?
22:07: [The Dojo] Dimlight: I dont know if relph thought it like this.. but some one start a character that sitts in the newbie chanel and get like ppl to join..
22:07: [The Dojo] Dimlight: and help em..
22:07: [The Dojo] Nikh: k
22:07: [The Dojo] Rephlector: no its not what i ment
22:07: [The Dojo] Nikh: tahsoky?
22:07: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
22:07: [The Dojo] Nikh: but its an idea though
22:07: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: sugestion about council
22:07: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes
22:08: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: we should decid on usefull titles right now, then next time nominate and vote people in
22:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: too complex 
22:08: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: we could specify in the forums what jobs we want to have, and then let people run for this office... democratic votes in the end
22:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: for tight now
22:08: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: was what i wanted to say
22:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: to be debated on the forums
22:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: snake?
22:08: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: i think we need a 'ladder', for every few levels, one volunteer works with people in that level range to move them up to the next rung to another volunteer who keeps them moving as fast as possible.
22:08: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: ----> FORUMS
22:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes
22:08: [The Dojo] Nikh: OK
22:09: [The Dojo] Nikh: bisan?
22:09: [The Dojo] Nikh: lets try to close it quickly
22:09: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: Ok leme ask you this what are we doin here if everything we wana talk about is responnsed to with >> forums?
22:09: [The Dojo] Nikh: and then dim
22:09: [The Dojo] Nikh: no tahsoky its just that some subjects are too long and complex for the assembyl
22:09: [The Dojo] Hoshiminh: look at each others new armor *g*
22:09: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: mm
22:09: [The Dojo] Dimlight: A couple of words: GET an mare advanced ande efective help system
22:10: [The Dojo] Nikh: k
22:10: [The Dojo] Dimlight: moee
22:10: [The Dojo] Nikh: disan?
22:10: [The Dojo] Dimlight: more
22:10: [The Dojo] Nikh: bisan? (sorry)?
22:10: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok no more bisan
22:11: [The Dojo] Dimlight: =)
22:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: LETS STOP HERE THEN
22:11: [The Dojo] Dimlight: like break up?
22:11: [The Dojo] Shuya: *applause*
22:11: [The Dojo] Rephlector: <Last pray>?
22:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: hold on
22:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: i was just talking about the topic
22:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: there was a lot of good ideas
22:11: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
22:11: [The Dojo] Nikh: and we will discuss it further on the forums
22:12: [The Dojo] Dimlight: AO forums?
22:12: [The Dojo] Nikh: no dojo forums
22:12: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
22:12: [The Dojo] Nikh: ONE IMPORTANT POINT
22:12: [The Dojo] Nikh: was raised by tahsoky
22:12: [The Dojo] Nikh: about what needs be debated here vs forums
22:13: [The Dojo] Nikh: err.. here again ill open a theead to discuss this important point
22:13: [The Dojo] Nikh: the idea is that
22:13: [The Dojo] Nikh: we need all to be able to discuss
22:13: [The Dojo] Nikh: yet we need be efficient
22:13: [The Dojo] Nikh: so we need find a way
22:13: [The Dojo] Nikh: its already be 1hour
22:13: [The Dojo] Dimlight: mailing list?
22:14: [The Dojo] Nikh: and i think we should keep it this length
22:14: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes dim?
22:14: [The Dojo] Dimlight: well If we start a mailinglist then send the topics to us..
22:14: [The Dojo] Sandzibar: mailing list shouldnt be used as a discussion tool imho
22:14: [The Dojo] Rephlector: one thing...its my birthday next weekend so im not sure if ill make the next week meeting
22:14: [The Dojo] Nikh: you can find them on the forums
22:15: [The Dojo] Dimlight: so we might come up with ideas before the meeting..
22:15: [The Dojo] Cryingsnake: mailing list, everyone knows topics BEFORE meeting, therefore, we can stick to the topics more closely.
22:15: [The Dojo] Nikh: k reph :) 
22:15: [The Dojo] Timia: how about we use assembly to bring up new items, from agenda on forum, then discuss it in the forums, then vote on it in assembly?
22:15: [The Dojo] Dimlight: havnt been there..
22:15: [The Dojo] Nikh: dim thats the prupose of the forums. they are quite elabrotae
22:15: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia woulmd tend to agree with you
22:15: [The Dojo] Nikh: debates are difficult like this. forums are more approppriate
22:16: [The Dojo] Rephlector: i got a suggestion..
22:16: [The Dojo] Nikh: reph?
22:16: [The Dojo] Nikh: then smilin
22:17: [The Dojo] Nikh: reph?
22:17: [The Dojo] Dimlight: give him a minute..
22:17: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: he fell asleep stanging up
22:17: [The Dojo] Rephlector: how about one guy makes a char and if people have things they dont want they give it to him and he'll sell it and get some creds...then those money goes to the poorly people in the guild
22:17: [The Dojo] Rephlector: JUST A SUGGESTION
22:17: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok we'll have a discussionabout money and bank
22:17: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: who wants that job
22:17: [The Dojo] Nikh: smilin?
22:17: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: loll
22:17: [The Dojo] Smilin: Before we forget it, what about the last topic, today's Dojo party?
22:17: [The Dojo] Dimlight: =)
22:18: [The Dojo] Dimlight: dojo party?
22:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: OK QUICKLY LAST OPIC
22:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: We had in mind a dojo party
22:18: [The Dojo] Nikh: like we all go and dance in baboons
22:18: [The Dojo] Rephlector: cool
22:18: [The Dojo] Smilin: yee-haw
22:18: [The Dojo] Dimlight: cool!
22:18: [The Dojo] Whootish: Good call...
22:19: [The Dojo] Dimlight: may we wear what ever we want?
22:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: VOTE: 
22:19: [The Dojo] Timia: Baboons is laggy. With 50 Dojo members it would be hard for some of us. 
22:19: [The Dojo] Dimlight: =P
22:19: [The Dojo] Saintgordon: good idea! i would like to dancewith our nice ladys! ;-)
22:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: PARTY NOW OR AT A LATER DAET TO BE SET?
22:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: PARTY NOW RAISE
22:19: [The Dojo] Tenchin: i like drink with brother and sister
22:19: [The Dojo] Whootish: Later would be good...
22:19: [The Dojo] Dimlight: dont got the time..
22:19: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: I am over equipped:(
22:19: [The Dojo] Kandila: later would be better
22:19: [The Dojo] Fantomen: Later
22:19: [The Dojo] Smilin: How about now AND later? )
22:19: [The Dojo] Nikh: OK SO PARTY LATER
22:20: [The Dojo] Dimlight: like tomorov or somethijng..
22:20: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: i got busisnes to take care of
22:20: [The Dojo] Nikh: And now for those who want:)
22:20: [The Dojo] Nikh: but full dojo party later
22:20: [The Dojo] Nikh: LAST VER QUICK: 
22:20: [The Dojo] Arthemi: np :)
22:20: [The Dojo] Flupper: call it a recruitment party. Then we can invite all the MA we meet :)
22:20: [The Dojo] Rephlector: tips:remember to take pictures :)
22:20: [The Dojo] Arthemi: p
22:20: [The Dojo] Nikh: Timia you had an update on alloances?
22:20: [The Dojo] Dimlight: =)
22:20: [The Dojo] Nikh: sure flup
22:21: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia?
22:21: [The Dojo] Timia: I have been chatting with Cybereng who has started an engineer guild. I also had a brief chat with Kizzim who is second in command of Omni Quick Response Force.
22:21: [The Dojo] Nikh: good
22:22: [The Dojo] Nikh: what came out of those discussions?
22:22: [The Dojo] Timia: Both seem interested. Cybereng is kinda busy sorting out the guild, and Kizzim I couldn't get hold of lately, but these two are both former Overseers, and we could benefit of an alliance with them both.
22:22: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: i gota go
22:22: [The Dojo] Dimlight: do we work toghether with any guild? like an aliance or something...
22:22: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: i have to search in prime trade time
22:22: [The Dojo] Dimlight: at the moment?
22:22: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes dim its an open discussion
22:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: but nothing formal
22:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: yet
22:23: [The Dojo] Dimlight: ok
22:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: bye tahsoky
22:23: [The Dojo] Tahsoky: bye bye
22:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: timia?
22:23: [The Dojo] Tenchin: bye
22:23: [The Dojo] Dimlight: bye thas
22:23: [The Dojo] Rephlector: bye
22:23: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: Bye tahsoky
22:23: [The Dojo] Rephlector: later
22:23: [The Dojo] Timia: I suggested it, as having alliances would make us more visible, and we would get more information about events they throw, or work with them on events and other happenings.
22:23: [The Dojo] Smilin: bye Tahs
22:23: [The Dojo] Fantomen: cy
22:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: yes.
22:23: [The Dojo] Whootish: I should really get going too. Someone's been asking for my help for the past half hour...
22:23: [The Dojo] Nikh: ok whoot
22:24: [The Dojo] Whootish: It's been good. :)
22:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: this is the end anyway
22:24: [The Dojo] Rephlector: later whoot
22:24: [The Dojo] Whiteorchid: Bye Whootish
22:24: [The Dojo] Lovegod: cya
22:24: [The Dojo] Smilin: bye woot
22:24: [The Dojo] Nikh: ALL RAISE AND PRAY FOR THE END OF THE MEETING